Lovemaking scene goof. - Monkey Shines (1988) Discussion

[–] SilentJay76 19 years ago

He was able to move his hand (involuntarily at first), and after the operation regained full mobility. So he was never truly quadraplegic. Perhaps his "private parts" were functioning as well...

To be a "loser" takes years of dedicated ineptitude.

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[–] melissa-sue 19 years ago

or maybe he was mentally aroused by the fact that he was pleasing her. some people do enjoy knowing that they're making their partners happy.

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[–] RobBase086-1 15 years ago

You are very correct about that melissa-sue that men like myself likes to make sure that I am pleasing the woman that I am with in bed.

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[–] sexy_dancer 19 years ago

That's a very male view. Men tend to regard sex (or lovemaking or whatever you want to call it) as totally groin-oriented. Women tend to regard it as body & mind-oriented.

I have heard that there are men who are more open-minded about sex, but I've never known one (which is why I only like women nowadays).

Sometimes a long kiss is better than half an hour or so of licking. (It's got to be a REALLY GOOD kiss, so don't think you're getting out of it that easily boys.)

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[–] GayWeezy 19 years ago

Medical fact = A very male view? Well, may I point out that was a very femi-Nazi response.

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[–] sexy_dancer 19 years ago

So it's a "medical fact" that the only pleasure a man can derive from sex is having his penis stimulated?

Wow. Now I'm doubly glad to be a woman.

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[–] GayWeezy 19 years ago

Your femi-nazism has you not able to see the forest for the trees. HE'S PARAPELIGIC! HE HAS NO FEELING BELOW HIS WAIST, BUT HAVING STIMULATING INTERCOURSE! A male parapeligic can't even become erect without special apparatus. If he was having his nipples or another erogenous zone above his waist being toyed with, or if he was giving her pleasure orally, its a different story...but they were just humping away.

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[–] sexy_dancer 19 years ago

No matter how loudly you type it in capitals, he was not paraplegic, he was quadriplegic. The difference is pretty crucial.

When were they humping? I don't remember that. I do remember him tonguing her, and looking kinda excited about it. I gotta look at this movie again.

You seemed to be saying that there was no way he could be excited about sexual contact because he supposedly had no feeling in his penis (although, as other people have pointed out, it wasn't that simple - remember that an important plot point is him regaining some control over his body, so that at the end he is no longer a quadriplegic).

I was simply saying that assuming that sexuality is all centred in the groin is a stereotypical male view - apart from anything else it implies a rather dull "meat & potatoes" approach to sexuality. Unless you're a Christian Fundamentalist who believes that sex should only be between a man and a woman in the missionary position for reasons of procreation, it also implies a severe lack of imagination and/or willingness for experimentation.

I'm not too sure what is "femi-nazi" about saying that sex doesn't have to be restricted to genital stimulation. Unless, of course, you are one of those aforementioned Christian Fundamentalists.

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[–] GayWeezy 19 years ago

"No matter how loudly you type it in capitals, he was not paraplegic, he was quadriplegic. The difference is pretty crucial."

Still, he had no feeling in that area (lower half) of his body and at that point in the movie, he still didn't, so the point that he regained command of the upper part of his body is still moot.

"When were they humping? I don't remember that. I do remember him tonguing her, and looking kinda excited about it. I gotta look at this movie again."

The scene where they are on the table with the chains dangling from the wall. The girl, riding on top, grabs the chains to help her with her sexual motion since he couldn't.

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[–] sexy_dancer 19 years ago

Ah, ok. I don't remember that at all. In that case you're probably right. I really do need to watch the movie again.

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[–] tcrizzo-1 8 years ago

You ought to brush up on your Christian Fundamentalism. It is quite true that homosexuality is condemned but your attribution of the other beliefs is quite incorrect.

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[–] Juststand 13 years ago

Of course many men do and can experience pleasure full body and mind not just the genitals. Some people just have an agenda.

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[–] thetheeyecreature 14 years ago

sexy dancer: "That's a very male view. Men tend to regard sex (or lovemaking or whatever you want to call it) as totally groin-oriented. Women tend to regard it as body & mind-oriented."

And that's a very sexist view; and inaccurate. Most men have a much greater understanding of sex than you seem to think. And many women, believe me, see sex as totally groin-oriented until they're taught better by somebody (man or woman). Thanks for the bigotry.

Also, spinal dysfunctions come in a very broad spectrum, with differing levels of sexual function.

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[–] rupert-ian 9 years ago

Sounds like a personal problem because you weren't attracting the right kind of man. There's plenty out there who go the extra mile.

No need to stereotype an entire gender because you couldn't get a decent man.

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[–] alistairdavidson2000 19 years ago

He would not know if he was urinating, defecating (hence needing a machine and bag connected to their colon and kidneys), or ejaculating.

He might not be able to feel it, but he sure would be able to smell it...

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[–] dirge93 18 years ago

All I can say is that, as a guy, I can get turned on by stuff that has little to do with action below the waist.

And for those who think he couldn't have sex due to erectile dysfunction and the like. Now maybe I missed something yesterday when I watched the movie, but it seemed like he was kissing her inner thighs as she was raising herself on her straps....

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[–] laurap10308 18 years ago

lmao...not to rain on everyone's parade, but dirge93's right..........After she pulls herself up on the hoist, you can clearly see her knee on his shoulder, so i'm thinking he's giving her the ol' oral pleasure, about which she is pretty excited, as you can hear from her. And isn't giving what love is truly all about? ;-)

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[–] mcfly-31 18 years ago

I just saw this last night, and as the two previous people have stated, there was no intercourse. At least on screen. She uses the harness/swing to pull her groin up over his face. You can clearly see her knee go past his cheek as he starts munching.

Re: he wouldn't feel pleasure. Just because he's numb, doesn't mean he isn't mentally turned on by the fact there's a hot, naked blonde straddling his mouth.

BUT...in following Christopher Reeve's story very closely, he was on with his wife when I think Baba Wawa asked the awkward question about sex. Chris laughed and said that for some reason, the penile area is not affected by spinal cord damage. He could still get "Super" and they could make another baby. And as someone else pointed out, Alan was screwed over by the doctor who wanted to bang his girlfriend. So he was never fully quadraplegic.

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[–] badponymedicine 17 years ago

Yes, I reafirm what a few have said. It was an oral sex scene. And they're on his bed, not a table. And the Femi-Nazi remark is totally uncalled for, and just plain RUDE. Just because YOU can't get beyond your own groin, doesn't mean no one else is able to. Doctors will tell you the most important sex organ is the BRAIN. If THAT isn't working, there will CERTAINLY be no sexual arousal. And in some cases, yes, quads/paras can still get aroused, etc, but it's not terribly common.

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[–] unicorn-32 17 years ago

Apparently the dipsh*t who started this thread has never gone down on a woman...

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[–] waldosanmiguel 17 years ago

Goddamn it! It was a moustache ride, you know, without the stache'. He was sticking his tongue in her puss'! You're right Unicorn 32! Some people had not gone down exploring into the big, black bush!!

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[–] unicorn-32 17 years ago

I'm a fan myself...

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[–] ThrownMuse 17 years ago

If you did, you would have seen that she was hoisting herself up over his head and he was pleasuring her orally and at no point is it implied that there is full on penetrative intercourse going on. Why the heck wouldn't he be gaining erotic pleasure from this, especially considering the obvious attraction between the two and the fact that he had little to no physical contact with anyone since the accident? It's a great scene because it shows that, yes, quadriplegics can have sex--it's just not your typical missionary position sex. That's not something you see very often in films. Open your mind and pay attention when you watch a movie and you might learn something.

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[–] greendimension 16 years ago

I dont know why some guys got turned on by the cunnilingus scene, but it was absolutely nauseating. Do you guys have any idea what the hell, issues forth from a woman's vagina??? Sick!!!

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[–] ThrownMuse 16 years ago

do you have any idea what the hell issues forth from a man's penis?

RIP CAGE: The Scene Maker

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[–] alezulz 16 years ago

Ha HA . You're gay.

Sorry i don't have anything intelligent to say. But come on...Do you think kissing is yucky too? With all the saliva and such.

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[–] greendimension 16 years ago

Oh brother. . . .*eyes roll*

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[–] transmentalist 16 years ago

quote: "I dont know why some guys got turned on by the cunnilingus scene, but it was absolutely nauseating. Do you guys have any idea what the hell, issues forth from a woman's vagina??? Sick!!!"

Uhm? You did? Mostly all of us did?

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[–] ajmal-m 15 years ago

i agree. it makes no sense that he got wood. kind of let the story down

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[–] ThrownMuse 15 years ago

Clearly you weren't paying attention to the scene (or this thread, for that matter.)

It amazes me that in this day and age so many people have such conventional attitudes towards sex that they can't even understand a sex scene in a film made 20 years ago.

There's someone knocking in the wall. Was it like an echo?

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[–] BenGrimms_Thing 15 years ago

Where is all the confusion coming from? They kiss, he licks/sucks her tittie a good bit then she uses the top of the hoyer lift to sit on his face. You could even see that she didn't shave above the knee for the scene and that thanks to that light thigh hair she is in fact a natural blonde.

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[–] yeoffthecat 15 years ago

So what? They both appeared to be enjoying whatever they were doing, and might I add that some of you are being very childish about this subject. You sound more like bad children, rather than responsible adults.

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[–] jeffworks 14 years ago

I seem to recall Christopher Reeve saying, nonexplicitly,that he could, indeed, get an erection. Or maybe it was his wife saying that. Anyway, I saw a TV show today about a woman who was a paraplegic, it said, and she said that she could have orgasms, and she actually gave birth to a child naturally.

Are all the nerves in the body connected to the spinal chord?

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[–] mcfly-31 13 years ago

I think we have some of the sexually naive in this thread, heh. Even a quad could still gain *psychological* excitement while engaged in a sexual act. Plus --- and this was the thing I was more concerned with in that scene --- the heavy breathing could be a result of her nearly suffocating Allan by stuffing his face with her parts.

What, you never got a chubby from just kissing??

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