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Ok i like this movie but....

posted 12 years ago by smackajacka
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..did the filmmakers really think the audience was that stupid back then? In Hellraiser, the story is clearly set in England. But despite the fact this sequel takes place on the very night of the original film, there are American cops and a senior American detective. Plus the whole business with Julia and the mattress which we never really saw in the first film. Surely they could have done a better job with all of those inconsistencies. It's a shame as I remember being a kid when these films were famous yet when I look back at it now, it's hard not to look past hilarious 80s mistakes.

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[–] HellboundHero 12 years ago

I'm not from England, so I don't really notice all the obvious indicators that the movie was filmed in London or wherever. And it's not as if it HAS to be England just because you recognized a few locations. They don't always film a movie where it's set in the story.

[–] smackajacka 12 years ago

I could have sworn there was a scene in which a train went by with 'British Rail' written on it.

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[–] HellboundHero 12 years ago

It's hard to read what it says on the train since it's in movement and what I assume to be "British Rail" was only on screen for a split second.

[–] Crafty78 11 years ago

It's an Intercity 125 train and the original is set in London, England. I have just posted a thread pointing these inconsistencies out. For a long time I thought Hellbound was set in America because of the detective in the hospital trying to interview Kirsty, then the 2 policemen who are also dressed up in American police uniforms investigating the house and then Kyle who is also American. None of this makes any sense though considering it's set in England and takes place pretty much straight after the events of the first film.

[–] HellboundHero 11 years ago

I know the movie was originally set in London, you don't have to tell me that. My point is not everyone is from or familiar with London except for a few of the most famous landmarks. The film industry uses cities as stand-ins for other cities all the time in movies. You have Vancouver standing in as several different real and fictional cities all the time, you have small towns in California standing in as towns in the Midwest, or parts of Chicago standing in as Batman's Gotham City. You don't think people from these places don't recognize their home towns in movies too? What makes London so special that some place on the outskirts of London can't stand in as a nameless American town?

[–] justyourfoolife79 11 years ago

The Gospel According to America is that we are all American, from our fast food to our TV sets.

Can't very well have British, let alone English, European, Asian, or Nordic, people dominate the movies.

They will remake this with spoiled college brats, all in their 30s, with Pinhead launching hooks out of their I-Pods.

Oh damn, I think they did that already.

Either that, or there are a lot of American immigrants in England, I honestly haven't noticed any here in Candyman Country, mind.

[–] Crafty78 11 years ago

I have no idea what you're going on about.

[–] jakemon08 11 years ago

In Hellraiser, the story is clearly set in England.

I watched that one right before this one and I can't say that I caught once that it was supposed to be set in England...

And the flowers are STILL standing!

[–] HellboundHero 11 years ago

Several characters in the first movie, such as Frank and Steve, were dubbed with American performances to give the movie an American feel. This obviously continued into Hellbound with the cops being written as American.

And they showed Julia dead on the mattress with the box in the first movie. Kirsty pries the box from her dead hands in order to banish the cenobites.

I know I already answered your post but I never addressed those criticisms so I thought I'd come back and do that.