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Portia? Why did they name her after a car?


I watched this again a week ago & coincidentally, I was introduced to a woman named Portia today. That line went thru my head instantly & I started laughing. They all looked strangely at me.

Better still, when I told them why I was laughing, Portia looked at me seriously & said "It comes from Shakespeare". Unfortunately, I broke up again before saying "I know. I know."

To try to make it up to her, I started reciting ...

he thinks the Gettysburg address is where Lincoln lived.

the London underground is not a political movement.

We didn't lose Vietnam. It was a tie.

& on & on


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Wow, I totally didn't get that line b/c people name girls Mercedes after cars, therefore I've only known Portia as references to the car - no idea it was from Shakespeare lol - don't call me stupid!!

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I watched the movie, never truly understanding why they laughed at Otto's reference to Portia as a car. Even after all these years, I had to find out the true meaning by going onto IMDb message boards, LOL!

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Mercedes is common female name in Spain. The Mercedes car name is a shortened form of "Mercedes-Benz" which was named after Karl Benz and his Spanish wife (?) Mercedes.

(I'm not sure why the name is hyphenated. If the company was named after Benz's wife then it should be simply "Mercedes Benz" so perhaps there's a twist to this story that I haven't heard.)

Spanish names can sound odd to Anglophone ears. I once had dinner with couple called Jesus and Mercedes, which made me smile.

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Oh wow, I never knew that either! I guess I never thought about where the car maker got the name Mercedes! I didn't realize it was a spanish name at all.

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Mercédès – a Spanish girl’s name meaning ‘grace’ – was the name of the daughter born in 1889 to the Austrian businessman, Emil Jellinek, who had homes in Baden near Vienna and Nice.
A progressive thinker with an interest in sport, Jellinek turned his enthusiasm to the dawning age of the automobile, an invention he knew would be of key importance for the future. As early as 1897, he made the journey to Cannstatt to visit the Daimler factory and ordered his first Daimler car – a belt-driven vehicle with a six-hp two-cylinder engine.

But the car, delivered in October 1897 and with a top speed of 24 km/h, was soon too slow for Jellinek. He demanded 40 km/h and ordered two more vehicles. Supplied in September 1898, the two Daimler Phoenix cars with their front–mounted eight-hp engines were the world’s first road vehicles with four-cylinder engines.

Emil Jellinek had good contacts with the worlds of international finance and the aristocracy and became increasingly active as a businessman. In 1898, he began to promote and sell Daimler automobiles, in particular, within the higher echelons of society. In 1899, DMG supplied Jellinek with ten vehicles; in 1900, he received as many as 29.

Jellinek demanded ever faster and more powerful vehicles from DMG. From 1899, he entered these in race meetings – first and foremost of which was the Nice Week – where he would race under his pseudonym Mercédès - the name of his daughter, ten years old at the time, and a name that was well known in motoring circles. In the early days, the name referred to the team and driver – not to an automotive brand.

At the beginning of April 1900, Jellinek made an agreement with DMG concerning sales of cars and engines and the decision was taken to use the Jellinek’s pseudonym as a product name. In addition, it was agreed that a new engine “bearing the name Daimler-Mercedes” was to be developed. Two weeks later, Jellinek ordered 36 of the vehicles at a total price of 550,000 marks – a sizeable order even by today’s standards: in 2005, this total would have been equivalent to 2.3 million euros. Just a few weeks later, he placed a new order for another 36 vehicles, all with eight-hp engines.

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A car manufacturer is Porsche.

A woman's name is Portia.




KIAI ... please.

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^this^

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A car manufacturer is Porsche.

A woman's name is Portia.


The joke is on the ignorance of the character.

1. That he actually thought her name was "Porsche" and not "Portia".
2. That he associated the sound more with the car than the name.
3. That he didn't know of the name "Portia".

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What spoiled the movie was inconsistency. One scene he's super smart and witty, the other - he doesn't know the difference between "Porsche" and not "Portia".

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His entire character is book-stupid and street-smart, the polar opposite of Archie (John Cleese) who is book-smart and street-clueless.

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"The joke is on the ignorance of the character."

No one can know everything. It was supposed to be about stupidity, not ignorance. Ignorance is an easy mistake to make, even the most intelligent people are ignorant about something.

"1. That he actually thought her name was "Porsche" and not "Portia"."

So what? It sounds the same, so why wouldn't this be a logical assumption to make, if you have never heard of the name before? English pronunciation is so messed up, this kind of mistake is easy to make even if you are not stupid.


"2. That he associated the sound more with the car than the name."

What sound?

Isn't this the same thing as your point number one?

Who wouldn't associate something sounding "Porsche" to the car (which IS more famous) than the name (which most people of this world have probably never heard, even after this movie came out)?

This is an easy 'ignorance' to express, no one knows everything.

"3. That he didn't know of the name "Portia". ""

Isn't this a bit unfair, considering he has never been to UK before, and can't POSSIBLY know all the possible woman's names the British people have been using since ancient history?

I mean, would you instantly know every swedish woman's name just because you are in an airplane that lands in Sweden? Kind of unfair assumption to make, as well as an easy mistake to make on his part.

I think this whole joke is just a typical british pompousness.. "Look, stupid americans don't even know all british woman's names, haha!"

Yeah, really funny. Not.

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"A car manufacturer is Porsche.

A woman's name is Portia."

The fault really lies with english pronunciation, which is the stupidest of any language out there. Written english is somewhat logical and understandable, consistent and easy to learn.

However, the pronunciation is as if some mental patient just started randomly assigning sounds to words, regardless if the same letters already make completely different sounds in other words. That makes no sense if you know how to speak some other languages that are actually phonetically logical (for example, in japanese, 'a' is always pronounced like the 'a' in the word 'car', but not in english).

This kind of misunderstandings would not happen if english pronunciation made any sense. It doesn't.

Portia should not sound like 'Porsche', and in katakana, it wouldn't. It would be like "pootia" (or "poochia") and "porushe" or something like that - and as we know, katakana is very phonetic, so the 'o'-sound here is not the one you find in 'food', but the one you wind in 'door')

If you ONLY hear a word, this kind of thing is an easy mistake to make, you don't have to be actually stupid to make such a mistake, because, as I said, english pronunciation is MESSED UP.

This is why I never laughed at this, it was never funny to me, and as some people here mentioned, there ARE woman's names that are identical to car names, so there's really no humor to be found here.

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"To try to make it up to her, I started reciting ...

he thinks the Gettysburg address is where Lincoln lived.

the London underground is not a political movement.

We didn't lose Vietnam. It was a tie.

& on & on"


...Aristotle was NOT Belgian...ha ha! Good Stuff...this movie's 24 years old and it STILL makes me laugh my a** off!

Otto - "Monkeys don't read philosophy"
Wanda - "Yes they do...they just don't understand it!"

Gut-bustingly funny!

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To be fair to the wannabe yuppies, the proper German pronunciation actually is closer to "portia" than "porsh".
http://www.forvo.com/word/porsche/

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My favorite part of that whole speech is: "To call you stupid would be an insult to stupid people! I've known sheep that could outwit you! I've worn dresses with higher IQs!" Classic!

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True dat , Ive noticed Porsche cars being pronounced "portia" or "porsha" more and more these days

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