Metal Years


I absolutely love this documentary. I'm waiting for the DVD since my VHS copy is gone. It brings back great memories for me since I spent all my teen years at the clubs in Holywood on the strip(the ones I could get into that is!). I would say Gazzarris was my favorite and went to the last show before it closed its doors in 92'. I'm 31 now so my memory is getting bad and documentaries like this keep them alive. Its really funny to watch it now since most of these people didnt make it big like they thought. I wonder what happened to Randy O or the other musicians? Is Chris Holmes from WASP still alive? Any sites out there give updates on these people? I would love to see pictures of them now.

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Yes, Chris Holmes is still alive (at least the last time I checked) although he is no longer a member of W.A.S.P.
Check out the Metal Sludge web site, they have lots of pix and features on forgotten hair metallers, it's probably the best place to find out where some of these guys are now

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Try www.rockdetector.com. You'll be surprised to find Odin actually got signed and that abominable singer went on to a solo deal with Atlantic!

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Wasn't the band LIZZY BORDEN featured in this movie?
I really thought their music was pretty good.

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Chris stopped drinking from what I was told, thank God. He could've died. Chris may have that totally crazy rock star persona but he's actually a real good guy. Randy "O" and Odin have actually played a few one off gigs in the last couple of years. I believe Randy works as a movie grip or something like that. He used to live down the street from me in La Crescenta. I was in the same grade as his brother Matt who was real cool. Randy and his brother Pat had a band called Lostboys and put out one album. It was horrible. Pat passed away recently which is too bad.

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Isn't Randy married? Or was married at the time?

A former friend claimed she knew him and was best friends with his "wife" and they had two daughters.....

I never met him, saw them play, but never knew about his personal life..



Absinthe makes the heart grow fonder

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It's already known that many of these bands were dropped from their record companies. One such band was Seduce (formerly from Detroit, MI - lookup www.MotorCityRock.com/seduce/seduce.html). I worked for a company called Electro Scientific Industries (formerly - Palomar Systems located in Escondido, CA) from October 1993 to July of 1998. Sometime during the middle to end of this employment, Chuck Burns the drummer for Seduce, going by the name of Aaron Bacon, was employed in our materials handling stockroom for our machinist department, cutting material for the machinists. At the time he lived in a really nice double-wide mobile home with his lovely wife and Naval Academy ready stepson, situated in a really peaceful and nice looking mobile home park in Escondido, CA. Later he changed job positions to our parts stock room and then into the engineering drafting department taking digital pictures of our parts and subassemblies for assembly drawings (picture form). We had a lay-off the end of July 1998 and Chuck later found a similar job to the one he formerly held for ESI working for a company called Deutsche located in Oceanside, CA making more money than what he did when working for ESI. I had been to his house before on a couple of ocassions to play Dungeons and Dragons. One of those ocassions Mark Andrews (going by the name of Chris) joined in with us. He came in with his head buzzed not looking like his album photos. I had once asked Chuck to jam with him at his home and he said, "sure." I went over and Mark was there. Later Dave Black shows up and I tell these guys that I'm no good on guitar, that the only thing I knew how to play was a 12 bar blues shuffle in the key of E. I get to playing my guitar and Chuck comes in on the drums doing fine. Mark Andrews is doing good on the bass. So the three of us are doing okay. But, Dave Black is having a difficult time finding something to play with us. He's struggling to find the right key, the right resolve....but he can't do it. For something short of my saying that he was terrible, I told Dave that he needed to play the E minor penatonic scale or the E minor blues scale (5 and 6 note scale patterns respectively). Dave still couldn't get it together. Later....for some unknown reason....I blurted out, "you guys suck!" Insert foot into mouth! No way to apologize! No way to make ammends! Ejected from the club! But, the truth about these guys, they were good for the time that they had doing what a lot of other bands were already doing. They probably could play the 12 bar blues shuffle in the key of E if they read it from guitar tablature. But they really couldn't do anything on there own at least not from the stand point of there reliance on what the music industry standard already had accomplished at that time. But music changes so often and is fickle with its facial masks. It changes too often and too soon. These guys were good at doing what they did, but they came too late to establish themselves as pioneers of the sound and genre.

P.S. This was 2 weeks ago (now 09/29/2007). I have a friend that lives in south Houston, TX. He's a guitar player as well. He told me that he was at Guitar Center there in Houston listening to a kid trying to play one of their songs, but having a difficult time doing so. Then all of a sudden David Black comes up to this kid, picks up a guitar, sits down, plugs in and starts playing the song showing the kid how to play it.
So, I guess Seduce still does stuff publicly. Wow!

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The Decline of Western Civilization Collection is now available from Shout Factory. It features all three films. Please click on
https://www.shoutfactory.com/film/documentary/the-decline-of-western-civilization-collection

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This is an excellent film, and a shout-out to Shout Factory for releasing the complete collection with lots of bonus features on DVD. 9/10 stars from me.

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Chris Holmes is still alive and very eccentric to say the least. I remember Metal Sludge did an interview with him not very long ago
Http://www.heavymetalscrapyard.weebly.com

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