overrated nonsense - Colors (1988) Discussion

[–] Fingaroo 17 years ago

Sir, I'm afraid that I really must differ with you. Like all movies, this particular film portrays gang life absolutely realistically. How do I know this? Because I am a member of both the Bloods and the Crips gangs. So I know whereof I speak, Holmes. However, if you wish to have your two hours refunded to you, please send a self-addressed stamped envelope to:

"Colors" Wasted Time Refund Offer
187 21st Street
Los Angeles, CA 90210

Please allow 4-6 weeks for the return of your wasted time.

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[–] paintedangels_andme 16 years ago

i thought they were rival gangs? :/

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[–] Fingaroo 16 years ago

Not when I was banging, Holmes.

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[–] paintedangels_andme 16 years ago

lol...that sounds like an interesting story.

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[–] thestephens_5 16 years ago

Sounds like some body has been listening to Rap a little too long... you dont actually believe what the rapper "The Game" actually says do you?

PHSSST.. "When I was banging..." LOL...

You were Banging Holmes? You better go get checked for AIDS, last I checked HOLMES died of AIDS....

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[–] Fingaroo 16 years ago

Clearly "thestephens 5" is incapable of discerning a fake banger from the real thing. It is a phenomenon that is not uncommon, particularly in this day and age. Back when I was with the Crips and Bloods, we would frequently run into police officers who were also unable to differentiate between movies and reality. We called them "Pac-Men" because they rode around in yellow unmarked cars and gobbled everybody up irrespective of their gang affiliation, and regardless of their alleged crimes. One of the exceptions was this older middle-aged officer named Hodges, who we all had respect for. Unfortunately he was shot and killed just a couple of days before he was due to retire. That does seem to be a fairly common occurance in the high-octane world of banging, Holmes. But hey Holmes, if you doubt my street cred, simply look up my posts in this thread from the beginning, and I doubt you'll have any problem believing in my rep, Holmes.

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[–] thestephens_5 16 years ago

LOL!!!!

I got your sarcasm.... finally...

Back when I was with the Latin Kings I sailed a ship across the ocean once too.... and I found this new land, and promises of El Dorado!!!!!

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[–] gretakendalljosh 9 years ago

LOL steph
I think duvall was good.
But Penn and Don CHEADLE was better.

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[–] alonsosotelo64 15 years ago

bloods and crips were always bangin' on eachother jackass! sorry but youre not a real gangmember

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[–] Fingaroo 15 years ago

bloods and crips were always bangin' on eachother jackass! sorry but youre not a real gangmember

Au contraire, Holmes. We didn't always bang on each other. In fact, we often teamed up against a common enemy. On one occasion the Bloods and Crips joined forces to repel an onslaught by the Baseball Furies! I barely made it out of that one alive; me and my homies had to make it all the way across the city using the subway system just to get back to the Hood, Holmes! Another time us Bloods and Crips were having a football game that got a little rough. But just as we were going to start banging we noticed that the Ducky Boys had surrounded us! And there were at least 500 of them and only about 30 of us! But fortunately a couple of neighborhood Wiseguys in their Hawaiian shirts threw in with us, and we were again victorious! So let that be a lesson to you, Holmes.

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[–] alonsosotelo64 15 years ago

uh okay you're a dumbass, shoot yourself in the head already

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[–] Fingaroo 15 years ago

uh okay you're a dumbass, shoot yourself in the head already

But as I have already stated once, Holmes, my Blood side has had a truce with my Crip side for years, Holmes. So I am afraid that I must decline your oh-so gracious offer. Besides, us gangstas never do ourselves in, Holmes. We always go out guns a blazin'. Like one time, my homie "Doughboy's" brother was killed who was just a couple of days away from being a pro basketball star. So "Doughboy" went and killed those who were responsible, but then he himself was slain shortly therefter. But that's the risk that us gangtas run when we are bangin', Holmes.

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[–] alonsosotelo64 15 years ago

i wonder why you are not in a straight jacket locked up in a cushion room at a mental institution because that's where you should be instead of on line with your retarded mentality lol

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[–] baghoomian 15 years ago

nah man Doughboy's brother was gonna be a pro football player ese, didn't you see Boyz N the hood man?

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[–] Fingaroo 15 years ago

nah man Doughboy's brother was gonna be a pro football player ese, didn't you see Boyz N the hood man?

I didn't just see it Holmes. I lived it! But they changed it from basketball to football for the movie. Cuba Gooding Jr. played me in that one, Holmes.

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[–] double_c 15 years ago

And don't forget that thing with the Sharks, man. That was Classic!

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[–] soldiersooner 15 years ago

the funny thing lost in all the sarcasm is the fact that the Bloods started out as a Crips set. No different than Hoover, Neighborhood, Grapestreet, Rollin' 60s, Rollin 20s, Black Mafia, etc. etc. So, if that guy was an older man, its possible that he could have been a member of the Bloods back when they were still a Crips set.

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[–] alonsosotelo64 15 years ago

So, if that guy was an older man, its possible that he could have been a member of the Bloods back when they were still a Crips set.
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not likely...he spoke like he has seen too many gang movies and gang documentaries lol

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[–] covenant12 12 years ago

I wonder if you're still this dense 3 years later

You saw Dingleberries?

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[–] rwood-10 17 years ago

I thought the movie was unintentionally funny. Lots of people say Blood in Blood out was over the top, but it was more believable than this.

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[–] sam0282 17 years ago

finger doo, as a member of the bloods and the crips, do you pull a knife on yourself all the time?

and unintentionally funny is exactly what i was looking for thanks

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[–] Fingaroo 17 years ago

No Holmes, I have had a truce with myself for a long time. Peace out Holmes.

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[–] stevielanding 8 years ago

Homes.

Mairzy doats and dozy doats, but liddle lamzi nothing.

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[–] fimetic 17 years ago

Yes I agree with you. This is a 'B' movie and a poor one at that. The script (I assune there was one) klunked along using 'genuine authentic' street speak bro. I can't believe that any of those involved will look back on this as the peak of their acting careers. I haven't seen all of Duvall or Penn's movies but I hope that neither of them has made a worse film one than this.

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[–] chuppy_nrz 17 years ago

The script of this movie is soooo bad. An so is Duvall's acting. None of the actors seemed involved in the movie. It was like they were just rehearsing with the script in their hand. I have never ever seen acting as bad as this. Makes Dark Blue and Training Day look like The Godfather. And seriosuly, the guy who wrote the script must have left his 13 year old-listening to gangsta rap-son do all the work. I never expected a Hopper-Duvall-Penn colaboration to turn out this bad.

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[–] autofocus 17 years ago

I agree that this movie is lacking in many areas. The script is poorly written, with one-dimensional characters and lousy acting to boot. Damon Wayans is absolutely awful in this film, and neither Sean Penn nor Robert Duvall deliver impressive performances. Rather, both actors are quite flat in the film, and rather over the top also. And to add insult to injury, Dennis Hopper's direction is considerably below average and filled with idiosyncratic moments.

If you want to see a truly unflinching, realistic, and absolutely excellent film about gangs, rent the masterpiece "Menace II Society." That film is immensely greater than the mediocre "Colors."

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[–] midgetroom 16 years ago

Menace II Society is not about gangs.

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[–] nickt030 17 years ago

The movie was fine! Besides, how can it be over-rated when it's under-rated? You kids these days don't even know what over-rated means!

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[–] RobSac 16 years ago

by - sam0282 on Thu May 31 2007 02:20:33

penn's portrayal seemed over the top almost all the time,

Sheesh, at that time, the overall behavior of the LAPD's "CRASH" unit was just as much over the top. There's more than enough documentation existing to demonstrate that Officer McGavin's antics (Penn) were NOT made up...

s was oand duvall just seemed to not care all that much.

Not true. Officer Hodges (Duvall) is carefully based on a real LAPD officer named Tony Moreno, who believed in a strategy of working with the gangs to get the bigger fish, opposed to CRASH's philosophy, which was to be another gang on the street. Moreno has a book out now, available at major retailers.

much of the movie seems unrealistic as far as proper police protocol.

Remember, the policing scenes depicted in this film were based on the CRASH unit, not the regular LAPD. The CRASH unit was wild. That's part of the reason they were disbanded. A lot of people believe they are at least partly responsible for the riots. They policed LA's poor neighborhoods like gestapos.

maybe that is how they did things in 1988 LA but it seems farfetched to me.

To be honest with you, it's just the opposite. It's more like a quick run down. The CRASH unit did some foul stuff to get their message out. This movie actually watered down their behavior a bit. Remember, Dennis Hopper, despite his hippy persona, has disclosed himself to be more of a conservative over the years. He actually made the cops out to be the good guys in this, actually making McGAvin, PAc Man himself, out to be the protagonist by movie's end.

understand there is meant to be a message but it gets lost through all the junk. i saw this movie on at 3 am and it got a good review so i gave it a chance... i regret that decision and the 2 hours i wasted. please tell me i am not the only one dissapointed by this so called "glimpse into LA gang life"

There are plenty of people who'd agree with you, I'm sure. But if they have the same problems with the film that you do, it's likely they, and you, could be misinformed or, with all due respect, in denial, of what the CRASH unit and LA's gangs were like in the '80s.

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[–] verbusen 16 years ago

The movie is dated if you watch it today for the first time, but back in the day when it first aired it seemed to me to be breaking new ground showing a "realistic" side to the gangs of LA. There is a whole lot of stuff packed into it and at times seems serious and other times seems like escapist fare, so I can't rate it a "classic" but I think Duvall and Penn were actually good so I rate the movie even today as a good flick. I had not seen this for at least a decade before seeing it again on TCM Europe tonight, did anyone else wonder why Maria was doing that dude while the whole house is getting sprayed with bullit's and then the cops come in and are sorting things out? She's still getting banged by that dude after all that time? C'Mon! I have to say rewatching this, that the gang members are portrayed as way too stupid, letting the cops always drive right up to them, no way that's like that in real life. I also don't think a Duvall type cop goes so out of his way to look for so much trouble, he sure got into a whole lot of it for a guy looking to retire soon!

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[–] CoolMusicMan06 15 years ago

I think McGavin turned out to be Lawenence Powell, you know one of the four police officers who were caught on tape beating Rodney King.

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[–] RobSac 15 years ago

The real life cop, that McGavin (Penn) is based on, is in the movie. I'm not certain of it, but I believe he's the one sitting directly to McGavin's left (your right), at the edge of the table, when McGavin makes the tampax joke. His real name is Fanning. The boneheads that worked King over were regular beat cops in the Valley. Fanning was a former CRASH officer turned detective. But I'm sure he was doing a lot of the same stuff. Everything Penn did as McGavin was per Fanning's consultation. Choking the Crip with the rock cocaine hidden in his mouth, nearly to death, was pretty intense, and I'm sure that's just the tip of the iceberg. CRASH was out of control. That's why they were disbanded.

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[–] sly2kusa 15 years ago

The *beep* that was shown from the LAPD in 1988 is outdated now. Partly due to what was revealed in 91' with the Rodney King fiasco, but also due to the tact that has now been taken, and that is to basically allow certain elements to implode upon themselves.

In other words - yes - you want to bash the cops, then fine - do than, and then protect and serve yourself.

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[–] RobSac 15 years ago

This is a democracy, ran by and for the people, NOT the police. And in this democracy, people CHOOSE to become police officers. No one is forced to do so. The police are called PUBLIC SERVANTS (look up the word "servant"). They work for us, THE CITIZENS, THE TAX PAYERS, not the other way around. The exception would obviously be those that are suspects of crimes, but they are suspects only per the laws laid forth by elected officials, and the warrants signed by judges, either appointed by elected officials or elected themselves. Additionally, the police work for us PAID, might I add. Ever heard of a company where the employer had to answer to the EMPLOYEES?!? Me neither. Well, the United States of America, and all of it's levels of government, are no different. Get that through your head.

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