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Michael Keaton is, by far, one of the greteat actors ever!


Michael Keaton is, by far, one of the greteat actors ever! He deserved an Oscar for his brilliant work in "Clean and Sober." I love this film! I loved it when I originally saw it in theaters back in 1988, when I was only 16, and I still love it! What a phenomenal performace! This film clearly demonstrated that he had soooooooo much more to offer audiences than simple slapstick comedy (ala Mr. Mom). "Clean and Sober" showed me that he was a serious actor with such amazing talent and so much more potential.

As for him being cast by tim Burton to play Batman, I'll admit, when I first heard of the notion, I hadn't seen "Clean and Sober" yet. I'd seen "Beatlejuice" and thought he would be a better Joker than Batman. But then I saw "Clean and Sober" and realized instantly what tremendous acting talent Michael Keataon had, what a truly breathtaking dramatic persona he possessed. And from that moment on, I said to myself: "He'll be the perfect Batman/Bruce Wayne, with his delightful quirkiness and his intense eyes and his duality.

And ever since, I've considered him to be the best Batman ever.

What I don't understand is, why this brilliant, underrated actor doresn't get more work. He should be sitting at the Oscars in the front row with George Clooney and Samuel Jackson and Tommy Lee Jones. He should be on stage accepting awards for his totally brilliant acting. But, unfortunately, Michale Keaton is forever underrated. In my opinion, he is a phenomenal actor with such a wide scope of talent.

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I agree.

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I recall Tim Burton saying in a brief interview way back then that he cast Keaton in Batman as Bruce Wayne because of Clean and Sober. He thought, like you and me, that Keaton gave the best performance of 1988 in this film. Great minds think alike!

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Keaton is an excellent actor and probably deserves more accolades than he gets. However, I suspect he's not ranked higher on the A-List because his portrayals all seem to be similar, despite the difference in characters he plays. In My Life and in Mr Mom, as well as in this one, he plays entirely different characters, yet it often seems he is playing them in the same way. I don't mean to denigrate his performances, which are always great, but I'm not entirely sure he should rank among the very best in terms of his acting ability. But even if he should be of that caliber, in and of itself, skill in acting, especially for male performers, is not always the primary quality that movie-goers use to judge whether a performance excels. Many think Bruce Willis does a great job, for example, but I would question his ability to be convincing in many of the roles he does take on. Indeed, of those you mention, George Clooney and Tommy Lee Jones seem to have this sort of star quality, without (imho) really excelling as actors. (I do think Jackson is a great actor.) In any case, Keaton's acting talent is definitely worthy of merit and makes you believe in the character he is playing, but whether he has something else going for him that would raise his star quality, I'm not sure.

James

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Are you sure about that owleye1? I mean I think even his performances in Night Shift and Mr Mom were quite different in the way he approached them despite both of them being lighthearted comedies. Then take a look at Clean and Sober, then Beetljuice. Those four performances were all approached in COMPLETELY different ways. Then the Batman movies were different again. Then came Much Ado About Nothing, and even Jackie Brown. All different and his acting abilities are top notch in all of them.

I don't think you give his versatility enough recognition IMO.

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It is ironic because he originally didn't want to do it, as I read in an interview with Roger Ebert. Keaton is a good actor and has grown a lot over the years. It is too bad this film didn't do as well as Beetlejuice, which had been released a few months before.

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There has seldom been such a convincing one-two punch as Michael Keaton's 1988 twin triumphs in "Beetlejuice" and "Clean and Sober." Not only does it demonstrate his phenomenal talent, but also his stunning versatility. He remains one of my favorite film actors of all time, right up there with Jimmy Stewart and Buster Keaton.

The plateauing of his career arc has always been a mystery to me, since he never gives less than a good performance and often much better. (Nobody could do much with the likes of "Jack Frost.")

I keep hoping he'll score a big hit again and get that long-overdue and much-deserved Oscar that should have been delivered back in 1988 for "Clean and Sober." It's one of the handful of movies I can watch again and again.

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It's in his eyes. He looks at you a certain way, you might think he's crazy. It's why he was so good in "Pacific Heights." In that movie, you're never quite sure what he's thinking - or what he's capable of.

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Yes, Pacific Heights is another example of his fine acting. The late '80s was a great period for Keaton with three excellent performances in Beetlejuice, Clean and Sober and Batman.

I don't think Keaton is ranked as one of the greats because he seemed to lose his footing in the '90s. He still made some good movies but not enough great ones to keep him in the A-list. I also think he alienated moviegoers when he didn't return to the Batman franchise. Of course it was his choice not to return, but I think some people perceived it as arrogance rather than Keaton's wish to move on to new roles.

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I just watched this again for the first time in 20 years. I think it's definitely Keaton's best performance.


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I agree. Siskel & Ebert rave about him towards the end of this review:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_o9OeaEI8A&feature=related

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Michael Keaton is a great actor, who like Robin Williams and Jim Carrey first became famous for "over the top" (in a good way) comedy, and then proved they are very good dramatic actors.

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CCRider01^

So agree :)






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Agreed! He's one of the great actors - don't see him nearly enough!

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