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The show's biggest flaw...


I am a fan of everything War of the Worlds. I have the books, some of the comics, the Orson Wells broadcast, the newspaper clippings of the effects of Wells broadcast, and the 1953 movie. Haven't had a chance to buy the Spielburg one yet!

I was excited when this series started. The idea that the aliens were not dead, but in suspended animation was a great idea.

I had one major problem that just ruined the whole thing for me. Whenever Dr . Blackwood would mention the alien invasion of 1953 to anybody, they had no idea what he was talking about! HUH? In the piot episode, Blackwood mentions the '53 invasion to Dr. McCullough and she looks at him like he's nuts. The invasion took place on the entire world. War machines were moving through major cities destroying buildings and killing thousands of people. How can she NOT have known about it? That would be like if you mentioned World War 2 to somebody and they tell you they never heard of it.

Now I enjoy a Government coverup story just as much as the next guy, but there is no way the show was able to convince me that the US Government, or any government for that matter, could have possiblly covered up an alien invasion like the one depicted in the original War of the Worlds movie.

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I think they hinted that the general populace blocked it out in conjunction with the government propoganda saying "nothing happened" but some people don't forget as they were too affected by it. Been awhile since I've seen it, but I seem to remember it that way.



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I remember that explaination. It was in the episode where it was revealed that the 1938 broadcast by Orson Wells was in fact a real news report. And I must admit, I found that explaination incredibly weak.
I could almost believe that they could supress the 1938 invasion from the public since it was local. Started in Grovers Mill, New Jersey and got as far north as New York City.

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The '1938 broadcast by Orson Wells was in fact a real news report' idea in the "Eye for an Eye" (the 5th) episode made even LESS sense then then 'everyone forgot the 1953 invasion' idea.

As the 1970 book _The Panic Broadcast_ points out once the Martians get out of Grover's Mill "the time element was lunatic" (On the Record by Dorthy Thompson NY Times Nov 2, 1938). For example as Ms. Thompson points out it is stated "within two hours 3 million people have moved out of New York City" and yet the ENTIRE broadcast take little over 60 minutes.

If the 'everyone forgot the 1953 invasion' idea stretched credibility to the breaking point the '1938 broadcast by Orson Wells was in fact a real news report' idea took credibility out and beat the crap out of it.

Worst based on the details we are given there seems to be NO technological difference between the 1938 and the 1953 invasion machines. So how the blazes did 1938 forces do what 1953 forces were unable to do?

The show was on shaky ground with the whole 1953 invasion thing and then the writers manage to top the insanity by claiming the troops of 1938 were able to bring down what was effectively the same kind of machine that could take a point blank atomic blast in 1958. SAY WHAT?!?

The whole amnesia idea was stupid but the show made it worse by constantly throwing the stupid idea in your face.

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May you be eaten first!!!!!!!

if it isn't funny enough have someone hit in the face with a fish. Since Thorne Smith likes it ...

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They should have taken a page from, "Men In Black," and just explain it as some top secret government agency erasing people's minds somehow. Might have helped in the plot? I do remember thinking it was kind of a huge hole in the plot.

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The forgetfulness was not taken for granted in the series, but was a mystery. How much of it was: 1. propaganda 2. collective shock and denial 3. a weird effect of the alien attack itself? The show was completely redone for the 2nd season so most recurring plot elements were reset. Personally, I think that the population would mostly all forget that they were invaded by aliens decades ago is an intriguing idea, even though it didn't play as well as one could have hoped. Also, the bit about the Welles broadcast was just one small piece of the puzzle - it was definately not meant to explain why people had forgotten.


My grandfather fought on the beaches of France in WWII, but doesn't seem to remember it. He probably does, but tries not to.

The series was leaning more towards reason #2 above. That for people to remember something really fantastic - and horrible - they really had to have their collective faces rubbed in it hard. What if in modern times, the government plainly states that they are in communication with aliens, but that we are not allowed to see or hear about this? It'd rate a high "weird factor" for PR but nobody would really believe it at a mainstream cultural level until aliens attacked the Macy's parade or the superbowl. Hell, scientists have been warning about global warming since the early 1960s, but only 40 years later is it popularly considered a real phenomenon.

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I was actually just going to post a topic about this. I watched the series when it first aired but I was only 11 and 12 years old so I don't recall much. I'm five episodes into the first season now and although it hasn't aged that well...the music is godawful, as is the acting, the story is still great...except for what this post is about. I find it completely stupid that people STIll don't believe in aliens when the world was almost decimated 30+ years earlier. Now, since I'm only 5 episodes in they may explain something, but I was looking forward to this not being an 'X-Files' type cover-up.

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The collective amnesia plot doesn't set with most people, and the reason is that it is impossible to buy into. No amount of rationalization makes such a weak plot device work. Bad things happen. Some may block it out due to trauma, but most people will remember. There is no way that all the evidence would disappear and everyone would rebuild cities across the world and not remember. There is no way that all those who died would be forgotten. Humans thrive on memorializing tragedy. The government would never be able to pull of something across the world, much less just here in this country.

Don't let it spoil the series for you. It's silly, but you just have to accept it and go on, for there is never an explanation given beyond the pilot movie's weak dismissal of it.

I loved the way they incorporated the 1938 broadcast into the series.

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It was a really weak plot device, but did they even need that? It would have been easier to acknowledge it in the series, and avoid the whole 'amnesia' thing, with no effect on the series.

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I guess they were thinking it would be better to have our team of heroes facing doubters at every turn rather than have everyone remember the aliens.

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It would've been better to have the 53 invasion be of our history instead of erased from everyone's minds which had no logic whats so ever, of most fiction doesn't have alot of logic.

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They said it was some psychological effect of contact with the Martians. If memory serves, they said it was the same reason most abductees didn't remember being taken until they had been hypnotised. I think it was either explained to, or by, General Wilson in the first episode.

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The show's biggest flaw.........




The Budget.



It was great little show though.

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I find it hard to believe there could ever been any kind of plausible explanation as to why humanity simply forget. I think its good enough that in conjunction with a government cover up, alien something or other and simply a horrifyingly traumatic event that we kind of just put to the side.

On the production side, the reason for mostly ignoreing the events of the movie was because it would have been too time consuming to create nearly 40 years of history that the aliens altered IE from 1953 to 1988 from the history of the real world that we are familiar with.

Basically, it was just easier start with a clean slate more or less not deal with decades of altered history. You have to admit it took balls to even attempt an explanation but I don't think that should mar an otherwise very good TV series.

Too bad no explanation could ever explain the second wave, lol.

-Jayson

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Also, if school books were purged on any mention of it, all surviving news footage confiscated, all government/military types are forced to shut up of lose their jobs/lives, and so forth, a generation would grow up having little knowledge of it. After 35 years, the grandkids of the survivors who know nothing would be in the multi-millions.

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The problem is not that all all surviving news footage being confiscated but that fictional material covering the original timeframe of 1953 and the rebuilding for many years later would have been require would have to be made and it would all have to agree.

Really look at the devastation caused by the Martians in the 1953 movie; we are talking WWII level of damage to cities here. The Eiffel Tower for example is so badly damaged that it doesn't even sit level anymore and the up third has been blasted off. How do you cover up the reconstruction after the attack which must have been going on for years?

We are talking a level of control that makes Big Brother of 1984 look like a rank armature. And we are asked that the governments of the world gave up this power?!? That is even more insane then the whole amnesia bit.

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This is drivel as it doesn't explain what happened to the physical records.

The kind of logistics needed to cause the 1953 attack to totally vanish from history is insane.

Every newspaper, radio, and TV broadcast archive in every library (public and private) in every nation would have to be destroyed and replaced by fictional material that all agreed. More over all the records of the contract work need for the rebuilding would have to be destroyed and replaced with stuff that explained any pay stubs in the hands of private citizens.

The most repressive dictatorships in history were not able to do this...so how was it pulled off? Not anwsered.

Finally there is the problem of when the show shifts from the present to "Almost Tomorrow" in the second season. The shift is so jarring that you might as well be watching two totally different but similar themed shows. The whole they forgot 1953 attack is forgotten and never brought up.

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You are correct it was the probably the weakest part of the series (besides the 2nd season.) If that event happened it would be one of the definitive moments in mans history. Even as dumb as kids are today it would still be in the books somewhere.

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Like I said earlier, humans memorialize tragedy. There's no way the government could erase that. No way.

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The idea of the 1938 invasion was that 1 probe ship landed in tiny little town an the FARMERS of that town stopped the ship. Since no explaination was given I am going with it had malfunctioned crashed on Earth an happened to breakdown while the farmers were shooting at it.
One of the farmers who was there says the next day the military came an brought Orson Wells with them an a few days latter he made the radio broadcast as part of the cover up. The newspapers reported that the crazy farmers heard the radio broadcast an blew up there own reservour water tank an any farmer who tried to explain what realy happened was considered crazy by the general population.
Now everyone forgetting the 53 invasion is a weirder thing. In a episode they did street interviews asking people if they belived in aliens an everyone said no but when they talked to people old enough to live through 53 they kept asking specific questions an the old people not only started to remember but they became irrationaly affraid an fled the interviewer. In Buffy Willow's mom finds out magic is real, her daughter is a witch, tries to kill her own daughter for being a witch an that she is dating a guy in a band. Two days later she remembers her daughter is dating a guy in a band an forgot everything else. The same effect was going on. If you were not determined enough or were not the type of person who wanted to know the truth or you were not being bombared with the truth on a regular basis something would block the knowledge from you.
An before anyone flames me Mr. Trick stated that Sunnydale had one of the highest murder rates in the country but nobody noticed. I do not care how good the cover up is if every block has someone disapear, runnway or be murdered you should not feel perfectly safe unless something else is going on.

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All this would not explain the records for 1953 and however long the reconstruction (WWII level damage by the movie) being altered to totally remove the invasion from history. The more you looked at the premise the dumber it came off..which is likely why they totally dropped it int he second season.

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The invasion took place on the entire world. War machines were moving through major cities destroying buildings and killing thousands of people. How can she NOT have known about it? That would be like if you mentioned World War 2 to somebody and they tell you they never heard of it ... Oddly enough, OP, didn't they use this exact same line of thought with Transformers Revenge of the Fallen, only everyone has forgotten within a couple of years? My brother saw it and said that they had covered up the giant robot battle in the middle of a city witnessed by thousands as a hoax. Any way you look at it, it's a bad bad plot device.

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The government could've labeled the 53 invasion as a hoax or someone used an alien device to make everyone forget because the events were too painful and traumatic to cope with.

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This is total nonsense. You didn't just have the 1953 attack itself but the rebuilding afterword which likely took years (and in really poor countries decades)

The 1953 movie made it clear--the Martians did WWII level damage to all the major cities of the world. You cannot claim that is a hoax.

If if wasn't for showing scenes of the 1953 movie in the 1st season intro I would say the writers only heard about the 1953 movie and never actually watched it.

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Yes poor writing. It would have to be something like Superman turning the world back to undo the earthquake damage or they got an alien device to magically rebuild anything.

Yeah it does seem the writers only heard about the 1953 movie or ignored pits.

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