grave scene


Is it just me but was that grave scene where that woman fondles herself and then touches his face, not one of teh grossest, perverse things you've ever seen on film?

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She (Sarah Mile's character) actually fondles herself and caresses his lips with her hand; a symbol of extreme intimacy. It seemed somewhat touching, as opposed to gross, and a very powerful image.

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It's certainly a powerful image. I guess the way Sarah Miles' character sees it and the way the audience might see it are quite different (I think she is supposed to be just a bit crazy). Personally I was always on the side of the black guy who pulls her away going 'No, miss...'

But doesn't she say something like 'You're mine forever now'? So doesn't it symbolise control or possession rather than intimacy?

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Carmen,

This scandal in Kenya is something still talked about as if it were topical,
not only among British colonialists, but the English in the Home country. I
saw some of the movie a few years ago, and was struck by Sara Miles' somewhat
derranged characterization. She's the one who was jilted by Joss, and was a
strong suspect.
I came across the book, "White Mischief" and am reading it presently. It isn't a well-written story: it's neither a court case nor a who-done-it
mystery, only a recounting of the characters and their setting. Accordingly, I
believe that's what gives the movie its half-assed sensibility.
The scene that you refer to is shocking in its bland mention by the author:
"What he didn't record, but what Lezzard saw, was that before Alice put the branch of a small tree on Erroll's body, she kissed him on the lips, pulled the sheet back, smeared it with her vaginal juices and said, 'Now you're mine for ever.'
It fit her character, you see. Bizarre, shocking, necrophyliac - nonetheless it was a fitting gesture. She was alcoholic and a drug addict; she dominated
and she was of an unearthly beauty. Such people set their own standards. She
didn't answer to others. It was an aristocracy out of control.
Apparently there was an old joke among the English decades ago arising from
the hedonistic lifestyle at the time of the Erroll scandal: "Are you married, ...or do you live in Kenya...?"

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Are you sure about this ?

I don't know about Kenya, but no-one I know in England "talks about the scandal as if it were topical". Or are you referring to upper class former colonials, now resident in England ? In which case, you may be right, I have no idea. However, I would imagine that 95 % of English people have never heard of it.

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So? Lots of events happened in the past which are intriguing and some even have played a part in shaping the world as it is today. Maybe not this particular one, but it is still interesting.

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It certainly grossed ME out.

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Wow. and see, don't we all consider things differently!? This scene is the REASON I remember this film. I had never seen anything like that in my viewing career! Actually, I thought is was SO perfectly fitting to the story.

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