I have been watching Violent Sh++ for sometime now and have always thought that the actual score for the movie was rather disturbing. Not like most of Andreas Schnass's other films, this score was just nightmarish. Anyone else agree?
shareThe score for "Violent Sh*t" has incredible atmosphere. I agree, it is very nightmare-ish. It is probably the best score I've heard for a film with this kind of budget. It pisses me off though how the music abruptly starts and stops. Although, I'm assuming they probably didn't have the proper mixing equipment when they made the film.
shareThat part of it is kind of humorous. It is obvious that they were not able to have real sound going with the score which is to bad. Still though, when the score opens up the movie and you see Karl as a kid playing with the ball and the music is going on, it's like watching a really bad dream. Excellent and highly underrated.
share..believe it or not, the composer prepared a cue in/out version of his score on a VHS tape, which was not "identified" (due to technical reasons.. hi-fi track and mono track..) by the editor when in the editing room.. and erased the video tape again.. thus detroying the only available "composer's version" of the music score..!
shareThat sucks! I actually really have grown to like the score. I guess the only way to get a copy of the score is to plug RCA's into your tv and analog record it yourself. During the opening credits it sounds like they have a full version of the score.
shareWell, if you have a DVD of Violent Sh*t you could just do what I did and record the audio from the DVD in a progam like Goldwave or Audition and with a bit of editing, it is quite possible to make a nice CD of the score.
shareThat is kind of what I figured I would do. On the subject of the movie, does anyone know why Andreas Schnaas seemed to tone down Violent *beep* 2 and 3? Not to say they weren't super violent but in comparison to the first, they are no where near as sick.
shareI've always thought of the second film being the most violent. The effects were much more realistic, and that fish hook scene was just *beep* brutal.
But it's possible that Andreas felt that he couldn't outdo the first film in terms of being violent. I did notice that parts 2 & 3 were more story driven, whereas the first one was a lot more to the point.
You ever see "Zombie 90"? That's my favorite Schnaas film, the English dubbing is hilarious.
I haven't seen it yet. I own Violent *beep* 1 2 and 3 and Anthropophugus 2000. I have been meaning to get Zombie '90 and a few more of his films. I heard Nikos The Impaler was pretty good also, as far as gore goes. Violent *beep* 2 and 3 were definitly store driven, but, the first one had such a horrible feel to it and its straight to the point story made it, for me, my favorite. There are to specific scenes in the movie that genuinly give it a nightmarish theme. The scene when Karl is a boy and the devil comes to him. My copy is only in german and no english subtitles so I have no idea what he is saying but I can only imagine. And the whole scene with Jesus was just sick. Very fake, but the whole idea was just sick. Great stuff.
shareWell I don't know if you still post here or not given it's been 4 years since you posted that, but... basically, the devil is encouraging him to kill his mother, he lets on something about Karl wanting to go watch her 'f_ck on the kitchen table" again, and that the devil is his true father or something like that.
shareLol, I still check in here from time to time.
Actually, after watching a bunch of Schnass's films and Buttgereit films I ended up getting interested in learning German. So yeah, I know what was being said in the film now. I don't know whether or not knowing what was said in the film makes it better or worse but still it's one of my favorites from German Splatter Cinema.
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Ah, very good to hear. I forgot you used to go by PCyst, ha. I had a chance to learn German but I never did... the purpose fo rit was actually to be able to watch this without subtitles, but now... eh, I got the subs. I don't think it would have helped much because a good deal of dialogue is pretty inaudible.
Either way, you are right, the score for the movie is very good and does give it a really creepy feel that Schnaas has never really been able to capture since (or hasn't tried, I'm pretty sure everything that went right with VIOLENT SH.T was unintentional, LOL).
During that scene where Karl is chopping the chick with cleaver and the blood sprays in his face, it's wierd. The movie was obviously shot on video, but it really does look like film in that scene. Actually, a lot of it does look like film, maybe because it's from an older video stock that didn't look quite as... polarized as video started looking in the early 90's. The only real shot in th emovie that really does look like the work of a camcorder is the shot of Karl hanging out of Jesus' body, to me.
I take it you're really looking forward to the 4th film and the Synapse releases of the original 3 on Region 1?
By the way, did you ever convert the score from the DVD? I'd be very appreciative to have an audio of that to listen to.
Also, if you want, I made a thread a few months back about possible plot explantions to try to make some sort of sense of the story, you could check that out.
Yeah, I changed my user name because that was a band I had formed back in the day. Since it is no longer around the name became useless to me.
Anyway, yes, I am highly anticipating the Synapse release of the first 3. Although, in my opinion, part 2 and 3 are nowhere near as entertaining. Part 2 was pretty humorous but didn't capture any of what made the first movie so much fun. Even the gore lacked (not by too much though). Part 3 (Zombie Doom in the states?)was better than the second but reminded me of a bad video game or something. But I am looking forward to the 4th film but I am not expecting it to be as fun as the first film.
As far as the soundtrack goes, thanks for reminding me. I had got so busy over the last few years with work I had almost forgot that I was going to do that. Hell, I would also add WASP's The Torture Never Stops if I didn't think there would be some legal issues like what happened when Schnaas used it for the film. But I will get the soundtrack put together and I will post a link for any of those that would like to have a copy.
Send me a link to the thread and I will be sure to check it out.
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Hmm.... I dunno. The first 2 are almost equally good, but I think 2 wins that contest for me. I think as far as sickening stuff goes, VS2 definitely wins there. No ta whole lot of competition, what with labia stapling, ball fish hooking, heads sliced in half with spades, and people having every single limb chopped off, as well as several decapitations, one of which also features fellatio. Plus the movie also involves incest. The blood coloring is also responsible for this.
I think the culmination finally came with 2.
However, I think the first movie is a lot more GRIM about things, due to the music and the lighting. The vaginal disembowelment scene is sick as hell, no doubt about that. Easily my favorite death scene in the movie (and fortunately, the blood coloring isn't crap there).
Like I said though, with VS1 it's pretty much the first feature from anyone involved, everything that went right about chances are happened by accident. Not that I'm complaining, I think it's a delightful splatter film. But I think as far as explicitness goes, VS2 probably wins, for grim and distrubing, probably 1.
Cool, definitely keep us informed on the soundtrack, I would love to hear that!!!
And I also really, really hope that W.A.S.P. is not the only thing that stood in the way of VS1 getting a proper release in the states.... nobody ever really mentions that UB40 also had their music illegally used in it as well. Granted, it's only for about 12 seconds, but.... there's also some other pop song that I can't quite figure out, it's the first one that play when the chick is driving the car.
I guess the comedic aspect of the second film killed it for me. As you mentioned the first film is a more grim film. And I am sure that was by accident. But it has been a little while since I have seen part 2. Will perhaps have to go back and watch it because I don't remember being all that impressed with it. I guess it also has to do with the fact that part 2 had more of that SOV feel to it than part 1, which looked more like an "arthouse splatter film".
But yeah, I will keep you and anyone else interested about the soundtrack. It is really only a matter of finding the time for it as I would probably have to rip it directly from the film and attempt to clean up the sound to make it more audible.
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Hmm... are you going to do the entire soundtrack? That would be sweet. The opening titles bit is great, so is the one where Jesus gets it from Karl.
I think my favorite piece in the entire movie is the bit where Karl hacks the guy in the arm at the beginning (it also plays while he's melting down at the end). My least favorite is probably the piece that plays when Karl's running around the woods, it also plays during the castration and vaginal immolation scene (and the very last kill I believe).
2 is really good I think. I will agree it had a much more 'camcorder look' about it, I like the way the original looks best. There's several scenes in that that look like they could be 8mm or even 16mm, most notably during that scene where the blood is spraying in Karl's face.
2 does have a much more comedic tone to it, music probably helps it there too. Fortunately, it's pretty hilarious (Karl getting a blowjob from a severed head and the opening make me laugh my ass off... along with him going 'Have you got the balls for this?' when rips the dude's balls off!!)
What do you think of the trailers for the 4th movie? It looks really, really professionally done!!!
Yeah, I will be doing the whole soundtrack. Actually, I have recorded everything but I am in the process of getting it cleaned up so it will be audible. It is somewhat listenable at the moment but I would rather get the soundtrack mixed and mastered properly before I do anything else with it.
I did go back and watch part 2 just recently. I have to say it's pretty hilarious and doesn't have the "psychedelic" feel that the first one honed. I liked it after watching it again. The scenes with Karl Jr and his Mother are both hilarious and somewhat revolting. I will say that Schnaas in this film is far more menacing than he was in the first film, where he essentially looked like a retarded farmhand gone crazy! lol
The preview for part 4 looks great! It should be one hell of a gore fest.
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Actually, that was not Schnaas in the original. Andreas played the guy who was cut in half/beheaded, I believe. He did play Karl in the sequels though.
Yeah, I think VS1 had the more 'disturbed' feel to it, Part 2 had the more 'devious' sense about it.
Definitely drop me a line when you get that soundtrack mastered. I'm very anxious to check it out!!! You could also contact Don May Jr. to possibly do some sort of work on the box set if you're remastering the music...
Been pretty busy here as of late. The soundtrack is sort of finished... Unfortunately it's a bigger job than I thought. The source material is fairly rough as you probably know since many tracks just start and stop. People start talking and the soundtrack stops. They stop talking and the soundtrack starts. It's actually pretty hilarious that Schnaas wasn't able to get both the soundtrack and the speaking soundtrack working together. Nevertheless, it should be done fairly soon...
Pretty hilarious, I always thought that was Schnaas playing Karl in the first film. I guess it makes sense since his stature is different from the first to second.
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Awesome. Any updates on it since the last message? I certianly can't wait to hear it.
Yeah, as far as I know that is not Schnaas in the first movie, going by that review here, and by the fact that the guy playing him doesn't really look like Andreas... that's definitely him as the bearded guy being sawed in half/decapitated. It has to be.
..apparently there are plans to release a re-mastered version of V.S.I incl. the restored original soundtrack.. And maybe there will be a CD release as well. There are soundtrack-CDs of Parts 2+3 available.
Unearthed Films will also release the Redux Version, which is a newly edited version of Parts 1+2 whith a possible new ending !
Hopefully a remastered version includes getting rid of the various flaws and bad cuts made while editing the film.
Hah and for all I care, a lot of the cheesy computer effects could be removed as well, but thats just my opinion.
Well, the first one might be a bit more enyobale if those *beep* drving scenes were cut out. These are characters nobody gives a shi+ about, and they go on for 5 minutes apiece! And the computer effects got pretty damn annoying too, I agree.
shareI don't know, I liked some of the atmosphere those scenes brought to the movie. The computer effects were silly but I think it is part of what makes this movie so deranged. I couldn't imagine cutting the computer effects out of the scene with the devil and his tongue jumping around scareing little Karl. Or the scene where you just see Karl just chopping away and the blood is splashing all over his face. For me, I like the movie just the way it is.
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