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Was Connery's Oscar win a sympathy award?


what do you think.

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No, it was more of a Lifetime Achievement Award.

And recognition of the fact that Connery was still magnetic and awesome in his sixties, and having a big comeback and doing great work, and that at least half the AMPAS would still do him.

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Concur. Back then I believe most of the Best Supporting Actor wins were treated like that. Conversely it seemed for a while that the Best Supporting Actress was treated as the best up and comer for a while.

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He was actually in his 50s when this came out.

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Just checked who else was nominated that year.

Denzel in Cry Freedom. Don't know that movie, but two years later Denzel would win for Glory, and later a lead actor for Training Day.

Morgan Freeman for Street Smart. Also don't know this movie, but he would kind of win an Oscar in similar fashion years later for Million Dollar Baby.

Albert Brooks for Broadcast News. His only nomination

Vincent Gardenia for Moonstruck. His 2nd and last nomination.

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I’ve never seen the other movies, but I will admit that it’s easy to view it as a lifetime achievement award, since Connery was the oldest nominee by far.

Has Connery been nominated any other time? Just wondering.

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Well he's the best part of the film acting wise but I wouldn't like to say it was worthy of an Oscar, necessarily. It was also a flawed performance in the sense that he didn't even try with the accent.

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agreed

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He's notorious for never changing his accent, no matter what role he is playing.

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he has an exquisite ancient Egyptian/Spanish accent in "Highlander"

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Lol

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Agreed. He was also great as James Bond... "The thingsh I do fer-r-r England."

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Who else was up for it that year?

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Frankly I don't like that he won. I really don't think he was worthy of the Oscar at all. Denzel Washington and Morgan Freeman were both more deserving of the Oscar. But that was a thing back then. Actors winning for inferior performances because the academy felt bad about not giving them an Oscar before. There's this one and then there's Jack Palance winning for City Slickers over Ben Kingsley in Bugsy and Tommy Lee Jones in JFK, Tommy Lee Jones winning for the Fugitive over Ralph Fiennes in Schindler's List, John Malkovich in In the Line of Fire, Leonardo DiCaprio in What's Eating Gilbert Grape, and Pete Postelwaite in In the Name of the father, and then there's also Kim Bassinger winning for L.A Confidential over Gloria Stuart in Titanic.

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I thought he was much better in The Name of the Rose which was released a year before.

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No, he was awesome in this role.

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Lifetime achievement award is an accurate way of looking at his win.

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SPOILERS

Oscars are so rarely about the performance. Yeah, some are "undeniable." Ironic example: George C. Scott won his Oscar as Patton in the first five minutes of the movie, hands down. But...he refused the Oscar.

And as Oscar winner Jack Palance said: "The performance doesn't win. The CHARACTER wins." You betcha. Patton. Forrest Gump. Rooster Cogburn. Palance in "City Slickers"(but NOT in Tango and Cash.) Erin Brockovich.

But more often than not, the Oscar is about "something else." The movie it is in. The competition that year. If the winner is "owed." Etc.

Connery won because...the character wins.

Connery was a great big giant movie star, but he rarely appeared in films that merited Oscar consideration. He was great as James Bond...but Bond couldn't win an Oscar. Zardoz? Highlander?...Meteor? A great star, a very charismatic actor but...that great role eluded him.

Connery came close in The Man Who Would Be King but his pal Michael Caine rather stole the screen. Connery had been in serious but grim films for director Sidney Lumet -- The Hill and The Offence -- but nobody saw them.

Highlander and The Name of the Rose suggested what his post-Bond career COULD be...the father-figure mentor to younger actors -- but The Untouchables perfected the idea.

It was a great "pop classic" more Western than gangster movie, and Sean Connery's Jimmy Malone is the heart of the story.

Costner's callow Elliott Ness recruits Malone because he knows an honest cop when he sees one -- a middle-aged cop still walking a beat, never promoted because he was too honest. Malone's a big man, too -- brave, can take care of himself in a fistfight, can shoot.

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And Malone has a ready store of "wise dialogue":

"The first rule of law enforcement: when your day is done, always come home alive."

"They pull a knife, you pull a gun. They put one of yours in the hospital, you put one of theirs in the morgue. That's the Chicago way..."

(After punching a thug in the gut) "How do you think he feels now -- better? ...or worse?"

(Riding into battle on a horse against Capone's men) "Aw, hell..you're gonna die of something."

(Dying, to Ness): "What are you prepared to do?"

And after his death, Connery's leadership and loss looms over the entire third act. One reason that Ness and Stone are so merciless on the train station staircase to their enemies is...they're avenging Malone.

The character won the Oscar for Connery...but Connery won the Oscar for the character. He never really got a true Oscar bait role again. Jimmy Malone got there just in time.

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