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I Just Saw the 1986 Original. Its Horrible.


whenever a remake comes out of a "cult classic" itS always judged against the
original such is the case with the 2009 THE STEPFATHER as opposed to the 1986
THE STEPFATHER.

a few points.

1.the acting in the original was awful. Terry O'Quinn was just too hammy and
Jill Schoelen and Shelly Hack were simply horrible. plus the production
values were low grade even for a low budget/independent film. plus quite
franky it was boring at times.

2.i liked the 2009 remake much better on these points. plus it zipped along
and was not dull for a second. also it didn't hurt that Penn Badgely had
at least 6 possibly 7 barechested scenes each one shot better than the
previous one.

3.also it made more sense for the mother to be a divorcee than a widow. a
divorcee it much more likely to be angry and want to even at her cheating
ex-hubby and hook up with the first good looking guy who asks her out.
whereas a widow assuming she was deeply in love with her recently dead spouse
would have taken much longer that Hack's character did to hook up let alone
marry another man.

i await my fellow posters replies.

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You have to be joking .. stepfather is a classic and should never of been remaded just look at the ratings for start/

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I could not believe how horrible the remake was. I went in with an open mind, but there was nothing chilling or suspenseful about it. Everything that happened was so predictable.

I didn't like that in the remake, he wasn't even really a stepfather, but a boyfriend -- even if that was what happened in Stepfather 2, it worked much better there even if it was an imperfect sequel.

Having re-watched the original I am again blown away by it. I love the atmosphere, the eerie score, and especially Terry O'Quinn. His performance was amazing. I couldn't believe in the remake the way the "stepfather" shared a drink with the son. Jerry Blake would have never done that. Part of his madness and instability was wanting the perfect family. Not wanting Stephanie to go to boarding school as it would break up the family, being upset when she kissed her boyfriend. Jerry was strict and there was a method to his madness.

This is one film that definitely did not need a remake -- however I think because of the remake we got it released on DVD (finally!)...so I'm good with that! :)

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I could not believe how horrible the remake was. I went in with an open mind, but there was nothing chilling or suspenseful about it. Everything that happened was so predictable.

Agree 100%! That film was terrible, and I actually had had some hopes for it given the cast and trailers. But with the sole decent performance of the lead, it was just awful. Even the normally very good Sela Ward was so wooden I almost stopped watching the film.


I didn't like that in the remake, he wasn't even really a stepfather, but a boyfriend -- even if that was what happened in Stepfather 2, it worked much better there even if it was an imperfect sequel.

Agreed again. In "Stepfather 2" it worked somehow. And we got to see the relationship in progress, whereas in this remake there is almost no buildup...he just dates her and waltzes into their lives and takes it over.

Having re-watched the original I am again blown away by it. I love the atmosphere, the eerie score, and especially Terry O'Quinn. His performance was amazing.

DEFINITELY agree here again! That cinematography and film score are unmatched. Terry O'Quinn was near perfect as Jerry Blake.
And while a line or two in the original was a bit too over the top (such as the "You've been a bad girl!" line altough one can imagine a psycho like Jerry actually saying that in that case), its excellent and the suspense never eases.

The remake wasn't necessary at all indeed, but it could have been much better with a stronger script and better acting.


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the remake was a joke.
the original is smart, scary, well acted and well directed.
i cant say any of those things about the remake.
it felt like a tv movie to me and the kid in it was terrible

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I have not seen the remake, but I wanted to interject that it is not uncommon for widows to go one of two ways - mourn for years and years, or seek companionship right away. There are even creeps who read obits seeking widows in need of comfort just to get laid and/or take advantage of them in other ways. Some more disturbed widows even hope to have a child as soon as possible with anyone available to fill the void they now have in their lives. A grieving person is not usually quite in his or her right mind, and his or her judgment is often suspect, making it very plausible that the woman in the original film from the 80s would have gotten married again right away.

Also, people these days seem easily bored by a movie where something doesn't pop up in their face or a scene change doesn't happen every five seconds.

The original film was damn creepy when I was a kid, and though I haven't seen it recently, I bet I'll enjoy it more than the new Hollywood formulized version this remake sounds to be.

I'm sorry you weren't impressed by the original film.

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i await my fellow posters replies.




Just saw this movie for the first time, so I'll gladly respond to your comments



1.the acting in the original was awful. Terry O'Quinn was just too hammy and
Jill Schoelen and Shelly Hack were simply horrible. plus the production
values were low grade even for a low budget/independent film. plus quite
franky it was boring at times.



I thought Terry O'Quinn, (whom I have only seen before in "Lost"; I'm not much of a TV viewer) was masterful in this role. The "hamminess" you refer to is probably his slightly over-enthusiastic cheerfulness; the very quality that the daughter found so unsettling, and which made her intuitively feel that something was wrong with him. Since as an audience we know from scene One just who and what he is, we're privy as to why there's a slightly off note to his painful normality. And because of that cheerful blandness, when we finally see his outbursts, they are all the more disturbing for their explosive violence. All in all, an utterly convincing portrait of a psychopath who manages to get away with it over and over again.

Mom and Daughter's performance were adequate if not stellar, and Jill Schoelen brought an interesting mix of innocence and wariness to her role as 16 year old Stephanie. Not much to complain about there.

Production Values: not high, but didn't need to be. This was a completely character-driven story that required nothing extraordinary or fancy; it really didn't need to be tarted up.

As for "boring"; quiet scenes sparked with underlying menace aren't as "exciting" as a constant flow of Hollywood shock-tactics. Whether ot not it's boring is pretty much personal taste.




2.i liked the 2009 remake much better on these points. plus it zipped along
and was not dull for a second. also it didn't hurt that Penn Badgely had
at least 6 possibly 7 barechested scenes each one shot better than the
previous one.




I haven't seen the remake, but if a series of boob shots is the one of the best recommendations you can make over the original (one boob shot; totally extraneous and purely gratuitous as it is), then perhaps I might recommend a few choice websites where you can actually get more of it, for free, even. Why waste money on a movie?



3.also it made more sense for the mother to be a divorcee than a widow. a
divorcee it much more likely to be angry and want to even at her cheating
ex-hubby and hook up with the first good looking guy who asks her out.
whereas a widow assuming she was deeply in love with her recently dead spouse
would have taken much longer that Hack's character did to hook up let alone
marry another man.



Actually, a widow who had been deeply in love with her recently dead spouse is a much better mark for someone like Jerry Blake, since anger eventually cools down, but the emptiness created by the loss of a true love is something that can really be exploited by someone offering a way to fill it again. Who's more easily manipulated: an angry divorcee, or a grieving widow? The divorcee already knows that what seems good can be phony: but a widow who's husband died before the marriage went bad still believes in the ideal of a perfect marriage and family; just what Jerry was offering. Makes much more sense when you look at it that way.

If anything, the worst part of the original was the predictable, standard thriller climax. I don't know how else it might have ended, but it was the weakest part of the film. And O'Quinn's performance was definitely the strongest.


I almost expected to see a family of birds crawl out of the ruined birdhouse in that final scene when Stephanie cuts it down., (Did anyone notice that the Birdhouse was a replica of the house of the family in Scene #1?)

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I agree with a previous poster who said that because of the remake we finally got the original on DVD. When I heard they were doing a remake of it the first thing I thought was would the original get released. They did not disappoint.

As for the original poster. The original The Stepfather is far from horrible. Now you have your opinion. Everyone is entitled to theirs. But for me where as I did enjoy the so called "remake" I really enjoyed the original a whole lot more. Terry O'Quinn was perfect. Dylan Walsh was so-so. Jill Schoelen in the original was great. I had a crush on her as a kid and to me could do no wrong no matter what she was in. The kid in the new one was not that great. He really annoyed me. Now the only thing I liked more about the new one was Sela Ward. To me she was the best part of the film. Shelly Hack in the original was too whiney for me. The scene were she slaps her daughter and tells her to respect Jerry makes me cringe. Her voice. Ugh! Outside of that the original rocks. The remake doesn't. In fact it doesn't even come close.

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"...it didn't hurt that Penn Badgely had
at least 6 possibly 7 barechested scenes"

Immediate loss of credibility for a response.

As for the others, all widows are different. Some can't live without a man in their life, while some were in a bad marriage anyway. Notice the scene where Stephanie says, "I miss him so bad," and how Susan only responds in a bothered tone, "I know ya do, honey." Like, yeah, c'est la vie, he's gone, Jerry rules! And Susan gets a lot of flack from the fans for cluelessness, but she was never witness to his outbursts (though she should've noticed he made love like a wooden indian). And she couldn't go by her daughter's ill-ease because that's standard "I hate my new dad" stuff.

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Yes indeed *beep* you carrotcake, Also the film was made and released in 1987!!

You sir, are an anus!

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OP is insane.

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I hated the remake.

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I saw the remake before the original. I don't hate it like a lot of people on here seem to but it certainly isn't very good either. Doesn't compare at all to the original.

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I was surprised by the remake, in that I thought it was decent.






I far prefer the original, of course, but I'm just sayin'...

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Haha, great signature line!

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Terry O'Quinn was just too hammy


You loose all your credibility here, no need to read anything else you have to say...

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They already remade the movie one year later?

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