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To bad they couldn't finish the film


I thought this movie to be very interesting and entertaining, that was up until Caleb re-joined his family.

Maybe i missed something but how did his father reverse his vampire curse? kinda lame.

And that little vampires obsession with Caleb's sister was so annoying.

I'm actually surprised that those vampires lived as long as they did, everywhere they went they managed to almost get baked alive, I guess they just get careless in their old age.

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The thing about Caleb rejoining his family is actually one of the most interesting dynamics of the story. He is forced to choose between his former family, his actual father and sister, and his new family, the vampire group who have now finally accepted him as one of their own. By having him choose his old family, it sets up the events for the final act.

About the reversing of the vampire curse: According to Kathryn Bigelow, the whole "blood transfusion being a vampire cure" thing was a reference to Bram Stoker's "Dracula", where a blood transfusion is used to keep the character of Lucy in the world of the living (this same concept was featured in the Francis Ford Coppola version of "Dracula"). That's what it was, a reference to "Dracula".

Homer, the little vampire, was obsessed with Caleb's sister for two reasons: 1. That Mae was originally his (he turned her) and he hoped to keep her as his. However, when Mae turned Caleb and turned her attention to him, Homer became angered. So, when he found Caleb's sister, he sees it as a way to seek revenge against Caleb for taking Mae (this is clearly obvious in the scene in the hotel room where Caleb tries to get his family away from Jesse and the others).
2. Homer is a 40 year-old man in a kid's body. To him, no one else truly understands his condition (he even tells Severen about it in the camper, with the line, "Y'have any idea what it's like to be a big man on the inside and have a small body on the outside?", to which Severen replies, "You have ANY idea what it's like to HEAR about it every NIGHT?"). So, when Homer sets his sights on Caleb's sister, he sees the possibility of turning a little girl who may later understand what Homer feels like, and he wouldn't be alone.

The vampires didn't get careless, it's just that one of their own, Mae, was the calalyst for their destruction. Think about it: If Mae hadn't stopped Jesse from shooting Caleb or hadn't grabbed Sarah and pull her out of the car towards the end, Jesse, Diamondback and Homer would have continued on to live. Even more so, if Mae hadn't turned Caleb, none of the events in the film would have gone the way they did. It's the classic "straw that broke the camel's back" situation. Mae was the straw.

The film is complete. That was the way it was written and that was the way it was filmed. And that is the way that many fans of the film like it.

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The blood transfusion is pretty lame... as it was in the Omega Man. Whether or not its a ref to Dracula its is a weakness in the film. Vampirism is on mentioned as 'a disease' or 'sickness' and while dealing with it medically is appropriate its not like you can cure AIDS this way.

But I dont mind about this, this film is/was so refreshing it could have gone anywhere and I would have been happy... but it didnt.

I love the imagery in the final sequence. Eyes peering out of charred skin and flames behind the wheel, Jess and Diamondback holding hands in flames, the slow mo shots of homer running, and I love the fact Jesses car hopelessly rolls to the side and bursts into flames before even getting close to Caleb and co... but it is anticlimactical.

This is possibly the BEST vampire film of all time (the poster too seems to love it!) Really! But its own romanticism was its undoing in a way. No Jess and Diamondback shouldnt have jumped out of the car and had some wire work fight with Caleb, but he has survived for about 400 years! Why did he just give up?

The only bit that is really weak to me is the dinner scene before Mae returns near the end... shouldnt they be expecting a little vengence?

Still, an amazing film.

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Wouldn't Homer's brain stop growing, therefore making him still being a kid, not really a 40 yo man inside?

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The thing about Caleb rejoining his family is actually one of the most interesting dynamics of the story. He is forced to choose between his former family, his actual father and sister, and his new family, the vampire group who have now finally accepted him as one of their own. By having him choose his old family, it sets up the events for the final act.

About the reversing of the vampire curse: According to Kathryn Bigelow, the whole "blood transfusion being a vampire cure" thing was a reference to Bram Stoker's "Dracula", where a blood transfusion is used to keep the character of Lucy in the world of the living (this same concept was featured in the Francis Ford Coppola version of "Dracula"). That's what it was, a reference to "Dracula".

Homer, the little vampire, was obsessed with Caleb's sister for two reasons: 1. That Mae was originally his (he turned her) and he hoped to keep her as his. However, when Mae turned Caleb and turned her attention to him, Homer became angered. So, when he found Caleb's sister, he sees it as a way to seek revenge against Caleb for taking Mae (this is clearly obvious in the scene in the hotel room where Caleb tries to get his family away from Jesse and the others).
2. Homer is a 40 year-old man in a kid's body. To him, no one else truly understands his condition (he even tells Severen about it in the camper, with the line, "Y'have any idea what it's like to be a big man on the inside and have a small body on the outside?", to which Severen replies, "You have ANY idea what it's like to HEAR about it every NIGHT?"). So, when Homer sets his sights on Caleb's sister, he sees the possibility of turning a little girl who may later understand what Homer feels like, and he wouldn't be alone.

The vampires didn't get careless, it's just that one of their own, Mae, was the calalyst for their destruction. Think about it: If Mae hadn't stopped Jesse from shooting Caleb or hadn't grabbed Sarah and pull her out of the car towards the end, Jesse, Diamondback and Homer would have continued on to live. Even more so, if Mae hadn't turned Caleb, none of the events in the film would have gone the way they did. It's the classic "straw that broke the camel's back" situation. Mae was the straw.

The film is complete. That was the way it was written and that was the way it was filmed. And that is the way that many fans of the film like it.


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It would have been cool if there was an alternate ending where Caleb actually went with the vamps though lol.

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I dont think that Neon Bunny "got served", I think he/she brought up some interesting points. Personally I agree that the whole family aspect of the film was a bit much, and most of the fans of this film I've spoken too agree that the moral values in this film not only took the edge away, but also took the spotlight off of the more interesting characters.

Do you really like the way it ended? Personally, I would have liked to see more adventures from the band of renegade vampires. Call me crazy, but they made the movie. I dont think it's uncalled for to feel that the ending seems a bit rushed and over polished. Aside from Severan's death the whole ending was very unsatisfying and left much to be desired. I know it's just a matter of a opinion, but Neon Bunny isn't alone on this, and I dont think the whole movie needed to be reitterated play by play to execute a matter of opinion.


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codebreaker2001 brings it to the point. the vampire band is great, but not the center of the story and the ending is all right. its a happy end but it fits the tone of the movie.

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Am I the only one who thought this movie was god-awful? For having such a great cast, I thought it was incredibly trite and ill-conceived (including the ending). Apparently none of them believed in bathing ever which was a major distraction throughout. The "Love story" aspect was ridiculous. Bill Paxton seemed like he was trying way too hard to be Jack Nicholson (especially in the bar scene) and most of the time just came across as a rehash of Chet from weird science.

The Homer and Sarah subplot was interesting, but again I thought it was a little too over the top. All in all, I just thought it was a mediocre vampre movie at best.

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No, you're not. As someone who usually "gets" the cult films, this one left me scratching my head as to it's inexplicable appeal. It's rubbish. Perhaps if I had I seen it in '87 it wouldn't feel so dated and ridiculous. But viewing it for the first time in '02, it's nothing more than a parody of what it's often credited as being. It seems to me that those who have been searching for a "new twist" on the vampire genre were willing to sink their teeth into this, regardless of how incredibly poor the final product turned out to be. A for Effort. F for Execution.

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Indeed, a poor excuse for a vamp movie. There are so many
flawed aspects of this film. I'd seen it when it was released
but that was 21 years ago! So, now, having seen a whole bunch
of comments (not here in particular, but multiple places) calling
this a vamp cult classic, I was interested enough to watch it
again. Thank god it was only 90 minutes. It's not worth any
additional time picking it apart...

I'll admit it had potential, but it was never realised.

Oh and I *do* have to comment to those that have written
about Caleb having to choose between his old and "new"
family: he wasn't a member yet. He never killed anyone
to feed himself and it was Caleb that let the guy go
from the bar resulting in his "heroics" that as Jesse
says, "...You've bought yourself some time boy." Jesse
was continually having to keep Severen from offing Caleb:
that's not "family" to me...

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Yeah, I never understood how these simple country folk would suddenly have the tools and expertise to set up a total blood transfusion in their garage. Or how Jenny Wright's character, after decades of being vampire would suddenly be "cured."

I like the movie for the vampires, but the heroes and the whole transfusion thing was kind of lame.

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Not that it is a huge mistake but Jenny Wright's character Mae was in fact only a vampire for 4 years and this is stated in the film, not decades.

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She'd only been a vampire for 4 years. It was her love for Caleb that turned her back to the "good" side.

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it is just great when people overanalyze a supernatural horror film...first, vampires exist only in cinema people. each vampire film can set it's own rules on the genre to fit it's needs. i feel that "near dark" was one of the most original vampire films ever, using the rogue outlaw vampire gang and the family element...one of the best that you will see, and i am looking forward to seeing what new elements that the remake has in store for us...

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Spoilers!! I can see both sides of this argument. I understand the choices that the director/writer made to end the movie this way and I think that everything is adequately explained to the point that it avoids confusion. That being said, the ending is not without it flaws and just because it makes sense doesn't mean that its good.

The pacing is completely off-kilter. There is never an exposition upon Caleb decision either remain with his new family or to return home. Also they spend entirely too much time upon his dramatic galloping entrance and showdown with Severan, only to run through the rest of the gang in about the same amount of time. And although they had built up a certain amount of tension betweens those two characters, its not enough to spend on the right-hand man instead of the leader of the pack.

Plus the "blood transfusion conquers all" ending, with full on freeze-frame zoom to fade, comes off as a little trite. Sometimes a happy ending is appropriate, but this one is unsatisfying because the vampire posse is portrayed as protagonists (or at least anti-heroes) for the majority film and the switch to them all being the bad guys (again this hearkens back to pacing issues) falls flat.

I still loved the movie, it has too much going for it that these nit picky problems can't possibly ruin it.

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Hey, I agree. I just saw this film tonight. While it has alot to like about it, it also has frustrating faults. As mentioned the transfusion was a weak out, that Caleb and family weren't expecting the vampires to come back defies logic, as does the inexplicable incompetence of these vampires.

They were totally in control in the bar scene, yet when it comes to offing Caleb and fam they are like the 5 stooges, that goes for the motel encounter and the final act.

I also find myself wondering about the convenience of the sunrise. As in most vampire films it's too convenient. One would think the vamps would time their final showdown at around 9pm just to play it safe, rather than what seems 30 minutes to sun up.

Also, the ending was predictable, I figured Caleb would save Mae and that he would need the sunlight to beat the vampires, but I hoped it would be a bit more plausible and require a bit more planning and cunning on the part of Caleb, rather than sheer luck and incompetence on the part of the vampires.

The premise was good, Paxton's character, Henriksens's character, the bar scene, were all pretty good. And Mae was purdy.

I see they are remaking this, hopesfully they can maintain the good bits and fix the lame ones, but I wont hold my breath.

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I'm not going to waste my time trying to argue what the points are of certain elements in the film that people can't seem to grasp. What happened is: You missed the film. You didn't see it. You cannot feel it. And I feel sorry for you.

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All the stuff in the father's truck and his shed indicates that he's a veterinarian. He would know how to set up a transfusion.

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calebs dad was a rancher and possibility a veterinarian. it shows him treating animals in the beginning of the movie i think. thats why he had equipment in the barn.

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It's also why Caleb asks "have you ever done a blood transfusion on HUMANS before?"

Koalas are telepathic. Plus, they control the weather.

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I think the key element of the film was true immortality. The vampires think they have it, because they don't age, but in order to survive, they must destroy, and they embrace this destruction. They derive pleasure in torturing the humans they used to be, the humans they believe to be inferior. But it is in fact the humans who survive, generation after generation, and their flaws are learned from, whereas the vampires stagnate. The whole movie was the conflict of a teenager going into adulthood, does he choose to abuse his new power and strength and become a vampire on society? Or does he choose love, self determinism, responsiblity, and as one of you ignorantly complained about, morals? His family acts only to save, the vampires act only to destroy. But ultimately he could live both ways, and it's his decision. Either way, he will live forever, through children, friends, family, or through his own selfish self-destruction.


Whether or not you like this dynamic is moot. The ending was necessary. If you don't understand this, you failed. You can hate the movie, you can hate the conflict, but that's what this movie was. And to focus on the foolish meandering moldy vampire's meaningless lives to the end is the biggest disapointment I could imagine. The most profound scene was Caleb at the dinner table promising to read to his little sister when she goes to bed.




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I just watched it again and enjoy all of the comments here. I wonder how in the world tho Caleb got Mae home safely. Yes, she had a jacket over her head, but that wasn't really enough protection for the long walk across the plains.

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People, its a late 80s vampire flick with great photography and an awesome score by Tangerine Dream. Enjoy it for what it is.

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Turning caleb back to me was alright, maybe sense he hadn't made his first kill or whatever. I was dissapointed that they were able to revert Mae.

I have a different take on the ending though. I think the vampires are the "good guys" right up until the end. At least one of the vampires, the young one, would probably have taken the cure had it been offered. I think the intent was clearly for us to be sympathetic to the vamps till the bitter end. The "mortal" characters in the story witholding knowledge of the cure was a pretty evil thing in my mind.

I'm no movie reviewer so i hope you guys can see what i'm getting at.

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I just saw this...
I think it aged rather well.

lots of good thoughts in this thread.
Promontoriom thank you... I really like what you said.

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Yeah, when the writers decided that Caleb and Mae had to be human at the end and live happily ever after as humans it required a series of ridiculous things to happen. The transfusion was dumb and all the vampires kill themselves. The movie was doing so well up until that point but they wanted a more normal hollywood ending and had to run the movie into the ground to get it. When his family shows up at the hotel, the movies starts falling apart immediately. Though strange, the movie was much better when it was about Caleb dealing with all the changes and becoming accustom to his new lifestyle and gaining acceptance among his new friends. I didn't care if they were vampires at the end of the movie, I was actually rooting for Caleb to finally kill someone.

"The thing about Caleb rejoining his family is actually one of the most interesting dynamics of the story. He is forced to choose between his former family, his actual father and sister, and his new family, the vampire group who have now finally accepted him as one of their own."

But that wasn't interesting at all because he is obviously going to chose his actual family because the movie isn't going have the vampires killing his little sister and father in a hotel room while he's like, "oh this is fine." This choice doesn't exist so there is nothing interesting about it. Then a serious of things that make little to no sense happen, none of which are interesting. Bill Paxton lets himself get hit by a truck because he needs to die for the movie to continue, the truck explodes because that will kill Bill Paxton so the movie can continue. Caleb can't defeat the vampires, they just have to kill themselves. So they have to write the movie so all the vampires kill themselves.

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