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Does The Living Daylights actually have the dumbest, most illogical villain scheme for any Bond movie?

posted 6 years ago by TMC-4 (19392)
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I know people enjoy Dalton Bond these days but The Living Daylights has an idiotic plot if you really think on it, especially for what is supposed to be the adult in the room sort of Bond movie. Basically a rogue Russian general and an arms dealer are doing these dealings to fund the drug trade out of the Middle East but start killing MI6 agents to restart Smiert Spionam (killing enemy spies), ostensibly to prevent MI6 for catching them and to frame John Rhys Davies. The problem is that none of this makes any sense because no one at MI6 gave a crap about any of this before Koskov tried to "defect" so him defecting and the restarting of the Smiert Spionam essentially is what got their operation on Bond's radar in the first place. Also, all of these various assassinations scared the hell out of the CIA and got their operation on Felix Leiter's radar, so basically these guys are complete idiots. Some of the weakest Bond heels ever.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

No more dumber than the plot of “The Spy Who Loved Me”.

What kind of dumbass thinks starting a nuclear war will result in an undersea UTOPIA?

[–] jekporkins (1921) 5 years ago

Cause Stromberg was a diabolical madman who had a wicked undersea lair. C'mon, Hash, we got to see a submarine Lotus. It works.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

True but a world under the sea won’t escape the effects of nuclear devastation.

For all it’s corniness...even MOONRAKER had a superior plot.

[–] dlancer (2036) 6 years ago

The illogical scheme is made up for with the awesome theme. Always enjoyed that Bond opening.

[–] kwestmo (4114) 5 years ago

Most, if not all, Bond films have dumb, illogical plots.

[–] HorrorMetal (833) 5 years ago

It was a pretty stupid plot for sure, and the villains themselves were rather lame. They really dragged down what is otherwise a pretty good Bond movie. It's for that reason I always found the following film far superior. License to Kill actually had a great villain with a more believable and straightforward scheme.

[–] Stratego (29208) 4 years ago

I think the Smiert Spionam scheme was started so they could blame the British for Pushkin's death. I don't get the defection, though. So Kolkov could convince the British Pushkin was behind it? Then why pop up alive later? The Soviets would just accept the excuse that it was all just a "special mission"? Seems unnecessarily complicated.

[–] HarlemEagle42 (16140) 4 years ago

With some refining, the idea isn't bad necessarily. But not with these villains. Maybe someone else in the mold of Viktor Bout or Sarkis Soghanalian would be more interesting.

[–] Clouseau2 (152) 2 years ago

Their whole plan was to get MI6 to kill general Pushkin who stood in the way of their arms/drugs trade. It almost worked since James Bond was ordered to kill Pushkin.

[–] PaladinNJ (20308) 2 years ago

Have you seen Moonraker?