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Did you ever notice that TLD is the only Bond movie that...


....does not show the villain getting killed??i mean it is implied when pushkin has him taken away ,but usually you see the villain die but not here....thought it was interesting enough being pointed out

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Have you not seen Quantum of Solace? Bond leaves Greene in the desert with just a a can of petrol. At the end M tells Bond that Greene's body has been found, he was shot dead and his stomach contained petrol.

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now that you mention it....but the difference is still that you as the viewer know that the villain is dead....in TLD it is just implied
and it just cam eto my mind that in her Majesty's Service Blofeld was just severely wounded
it is still quite rare that the last thing of the villain you see is him being still alive

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Blofeld is also alive at the end of YOLT and his "death" is ambiguous in DAF, especially with the FYEO pre-title sequence 10 years later.

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Blofeld is the obvious exception to the rule, as he is the perennial nemesis of Bond, and has survived From Russia With Love, Thunderball, You Only Live Twice, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Diamonds are Forever, and then he makes his final appearance before Spectre in the intro of For Your Eyes Only, in which they show him getting dropped into a smoke stack (from pretty high up so in case his wheelchair didn't break his fall, he's probably assumed dead).

Stop trying to poke holes in the plot and enjoy the ride.

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I'd actually like to see Gen Koskov come back, not just because I like Jeroen Krabbe, but he was an interesting character, I think. Most of his characters are double crossers.

Jeroen Krabbe is in his early 70s now but still going.

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Quantam of Solace shouldn't count...Daniel Craig as the dark, unfunny Bond should't count.

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Depends who you see as the main villain. Whitaker (Joe Don Baker) gets killed.

Also, there is of course Christoph Waltz's character in SPECTRE

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A view to a kill you see Walken fall into the river but not actually die.

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At the height Zorin fell, he absolutely dead.

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Considering the genetic manipulation that went into Zorin, we really can't assume to know whether he was truly capable of surviving that fall. Sure, a normal person wouldn't survive that fall, but this is a genetically altered clone of Hitler, so who really knows.

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Considering the genetic manipulation that went into Zorin, we really can't assume to know whether he was truly capable of surviving that fall.

Oh we can assume that, due to the scientific fact about falling in to the water, which is the equivalent of having a human fall directly on to a concrete floor from that height.
It has been tested on Mythbusters. No living being will survive that.

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The character of Koskov is both a villain and a comic relief. They decided not to kill off the comic relief character. This is not a rule and it depends on the director's taste. They followed the same formula in the License to Kill. The character of Professor Joe Butcher played by Wayne Newton was also a bad guy/comic relief and they did not kill him off.

The other two characters Necros and Whitaker were pure villains and they got killed off at the end.

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A good point.
I enjoyed thinking about what'd happen to the villain and not just get blown away or shot to death by Bond.


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Le Chifre is also never shown being killed in Casino Royale. Bond hears the commotion in the next room, and other characters later state that he is dead. In the Bond universe with its constant stream of double agents and fake-outs there's a chance he's still around.

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It's a stretch, but Koskov stood a chance of dying in the "diplomatic bag". Basically they will stick him in a large crate, nail it shut, and put the diplomatic seal on it. It has the same immunity as a human diplomat that it can't be opened except in a possible life or death situation, such as if it might contain a bomb. Governments have been known to smuggle people back and forth this way, but sometimes they suffocated, were poisoned by insecticide spray, or froze to death in an unheated cargo hold. Gen Pushkin as well as Koskov probably knew this.

Lucky for Georgi a diplomatic package is exempt from clearing customs.

Just a thought.

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Isn't this the only Bond film where you don't see him in bed or in some compromising position with a woman, where it is implied that they "made love" ?

The final scene behind the changing shade in Kara's dressing room does not count, nor does the opening scene on the boat as the activity is strictly off screen



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Back to the post that says Daniel Craig in Quantum Of Solace shouldn't have counted because he was a 'dark, unfunny Bond'.

Bond in Quantum Of Solace was grieving Vesper's death and trying to find out who was trying to kill the most important person in his life, M. Maybe that's why he was dark and unfunny.

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