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what was with the sexual material?


What was with the Sexual material? The girl showing the boys her Vagina and the boys sister and her sex life with the Canadian soldier. Is it just me or could the movie have done without it?

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Maybe it could've done without it but things like that do happen in real life and it was showing you just whats on a growing boys mind.

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Read Boorman's autobiography and you'll understand a lot more about this movie :).

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Was to show that there were a few people in England that had sex from time to time.

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anglo-dan: "What was with the Sexual material? The girl showing the boys her Vagina and the boys sister and her sex life with the Canadian soldier. Is it just me or could the movie have done without it?"
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It just confirms that teen-agers didn't start learning about sex in the 1960's or the 1980's, or whichever youthful generation wants to believe they were first.

Little boys wanted to see in little girls' panties and teen agers were engaging in pre-marital sex.

It wasn't all naive hand-holding and delicate young girls saving themselves for marriage with Mr. Right.

It balances out the movie all way around for me.

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No. It couldn't have done without it. Question answered.

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it also shows a change in society. although we don't see much before the war, the war itself changed peoples attitude to sex - especially amongst the young. People who may have waited for marriage before the war suddenly had to face the fact that they could die or be separated at any time, so it was better to enjoy the time together. also, as other posters have mentionned, it was told through a young boys eyes, there was a naivety about the scenes which showed although attitudes were changing, sex was still not talked about.

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the war itself changed peoples attitude to sex


It is interesting when over half a century on from the end of the second World war, on an International Discussion Board, it is common place to refer to "the war" and presume all will know the reference is to WWII.

Obviously as the film is about WWII that is what is being referenced, so maybe it is OK to simply use; "the war", as shorthand here. However, since, 1945, there have been umpteen major international wars, although fortunately - so far - not yet another "World War" although some of the conflicts have been as terrible for the participants as any world war.

I guess people's attitudes to sex and relationships and procreation are heightened in times of war, but doubt that WWII was unique in this respect.

I recall my learning that my grandparents married just prior to him going off to The Great War in 1914 - I guess it was ever thus, Korea, Vietnam, Cyprus, Bosnia, Afghanistan, etc., etc..

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Yeah, it is just YOU.

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I see what you're saying. All of the shots of dawn's legs, beyond all of the obvious usage of sex, were definitely overused at times. But I think that it is somewhat appropriate, because it was a war film. War and sex are almost the same, because war is violence. Violence and Sex both are activities that involve action and competition. The incorporation of sex in Hope and Glory may have been overused, but I think it was appropriate at a lot of parts.

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As an old friend (and WWII veteran) used to say: Women were as bigga whores back then as they are now.

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I think it was like the children's gang running around unsupervised.. showed how the war broke down the society and things started to fall apart. Dawn was acting out in the same was that Bill was by crawling through the damaged buildings, people thought there WAS no future, in a way, they gave up and gave in. I think it was ABSOLUTELY necessary to the plot, and the film would not have been as shocking without it. War is NEVER a good thing, which is part of the undercurrent of themes in the film....

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