Sexual assault scene


Included in Japanese versions of the film and not the UK version so I beleive.

What characters were involved and what did it add to the film?

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This is quite strange, since he sexual assault scene is included in the Italian version that is an adaptation of the English language one. Shiro and the girl were involved. Shiro assaults the girl but she does not surrend to him, so he repents and apologizes for his behaviour. He feels surprised when the girl apologizes indeed for hurting him when defending herself.

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Yeah but its not as ideosyncratically japanese as it sounds.

When she apologises shes basically pre-empting Shiros gushing apology , saving them both the trauma of dealing with it head on . Considering she idolises him and his goal in the face of his own mediocrity its essentially swept under the carpet. Despite her forgivenesss theres distance between them from then on and its really the end of thier friendship, besides events are heating up with the space programme by then anyhow. Really As bad as it sounds its *tastefully* done, for anime anyhow

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From Wikipedia:

"In American fandom, Gainax popularized the term and usage of fan service, and unusually precise animation of a woman's chest bouncing became known as "the Gainax bounce" or "gainaxing", first seen in a scene of Gunbuster featuring Noriko Takaya. Gainaxing is measured in units called Misty Mays, named after the character from Otaku no Video. A Misty May is equal to one full bounce."

It seems to also be their hallmark. Whether it is needed for the storyline, there's going to be a topless chick somewhere.

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Manga Video willingly removed the sexual assault from the UK release to get a PG certificate instead of a 15. From MelonFarmers.co.uk:

Wings of Honneamise was cut in one place. It was a wholly gratuitous sexual assault in the middle of a film which was otherwise a wonderful experience for younger viewers. But, and this is important as other distributors often do the same, it was voluntarily cut by Manga Video to lower the certificate from its cinema classification of 15 to a PG for the video release.

Because Manga Video, not the BBFC, removed it, it's not listed as a cut on the BBFC website.

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I once read something from an anime historian who gauged that the filmmakers' original intent was to project a sense of purpose for all the characters in the film.
According to this idea, in relation to the assault, the reality of what Shiro has stepped into doesn't actually hit him until the press conference, particularly when the media hounds start dogging him about purpose ("Why spend our money on this?" "What's your agenda?" etc.). Shiro decends into a false sense of selflessness (tosses cash to the homeless on the steps, helps Riquinni pass along flyers); he has associated this awareness with Riquinni totally, yet another mistake he makes.
Get it so far?

Riquinni had inspired Shiro simply by being herself. Her devotion to God and willingness to trust Him in the face of eviction and poverty makes death in a space capsule seem insignificant. By the time that Shiro thinks he has given himself totally to a new purpose, Riquinni reveals that she has been hoarding money in her shoe. Shiro's awareness is shattered. His anger, again, from a false origin, he attempts to supress without success, so it escalates into the abrupt assault. Make no mistake--this is not an excuse. The attack is inexcusable. However, it is not unexplainable. Riquinni does not apologize for what she did or what he did--she apologizes because that's who she is.

I don't know if I completely buy his position, but it does give me some solace in how their relationship is resolved--the meeting at the trolley. They don't actually say so, but they seem to realize at the same time that they can't be together because of what happened, but they can still care about each other. Given Manni's speech at the market and a conversation (finally) with little Mana, Shiro realizes too late that Riquinni did give him a purpose; one that was too big for anyone-them included-to fully understand.

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Thanks for posting this analysis; it works well and clears some things up. But what was the significance of Riquinni hiding the money in her shoe? Had she been among the homeless who hoarded around the money Shiro threw, had she stolen it somewhere, what was the big deal with that? Why was it so 'disillusioning' and guilt-inducing?

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From what I've gathered, it revealed Riquinni's practical side; that perhaps she's not as much of a faith person as she professes. It never occurs to Shiro how long she may have had it--just the fact that she had it angers him irrationally.

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When I first saw this scene, I interpreted is like this:

The money in Riquinni's shoe implies that she is practicing prostitution.

Shiro realizes this and becomes depressed and aphonic (as opposed to his usual behavior around her).

After brooding for a time, he decides to 'take what he's wanted' because 'many others have had it'.

When she strikes his head, he realizes that her actions were only be taken out of deperation, and realizes the mistake he has made.

I thought this for over a year, until I watched the film's commentary track , and found the creators amazed that anyone had inferred this. They elaborated the money representing her practical side, as previously mentioned. However I find "the proof in the puddin'" and after watching the film a dozen or so times, don't think my origional conclusion is unreasonable.

How about anyone else?

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Fairly reasonable explanation but did she did it because they had no place to live in?

They can't pay the mortgage of their old house so that means there is no money coming in.

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it seems like that scene was re-enacted in OldBoy..

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I had the same interpretation; especially since it appeared that the 'uncle' was supplying Riquinni with money. The money in the shoe was unexplained and looked suspicious.

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That and other post about "his perception of her" post is what I think...

How is she making so much money? Handing out leaflets doesn't pay the bills... but also, it is money that could have been saved for a while since she lost her home.

Shiro does realize he is in the wrong and stops... which gives Riquinni the chance to smash is head. Manna is not even shocked. hmmmm

Now, keep in mind - WoH is a well thought out "world" - and their religions and beliefs are mixtures of what we have here. In most places of this planet - women are 3rd class citizens. If they are not married, they are useless. They cannot get normal jobs, little or no welfare, etc. Being assaulted (beaten, rape and killed) is a way of life.

In the west - as many of our values; this is wrong. But this is the norm in much of Africa, middle east, Asia and even South America. But even if you go back less than 100 years ago, women could NOT VOTE.

(PS: This is mine and other's theory as to why there is ISSUES between the WEST and muslims. In that "we" do look down on them for treating women like crap more than anyone else, besides the relgious beliefs. The West has advanced their culture, while most muslims are still stuck 2000 years ago and talk about their GREAT history - but nothing else since then) Sad, all these men should THINK "I am born from a women" and respect thier mothers, sisters and daughters.

Note: NOT all islamic nations are the same, some are very peaceful and this is not about terrorism or racisim.


So... its "their fault" that women get raped or beaten, and so they are brought up to be victims. And having Riqunni saying "sorry" is not that strange. In the world of WoH - She is a great character, she knows that what HE did was wrong, that she is NOT perfect and does what she can to save face.

Even in Japan, women are still BELOW men in general.

It is actual LOVE of the woman that changes social values to the higher level. Not getting yourself an arranged teen wife to be your sex slave and baby factory.

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People only carry money in their shoes when they are around pickpockets a lot, which shows that Riquinni hangs out in crappy parts of town. Also, who knows what these things are worth but her coins looked like a lot of copper and brass to me, opposed to the silver and gold ones that Our Hero tosses to the bums later in the movie. I think he turns away from her and feels guilt because he is embarrassed that his life is so much easier than hers, through no virtue of his own.

I'm also starting to think that her apology was genuine, but it was not hitting him but for leading him on. If her personality is modeled after someone who is very deeply Christian she would of course forgive him, and feel bad that she had been a source of temptation to sin for him. Before you jump down my throat, yeah, I think that is bit crazy--virtuous to a fault, perhaps--but I've known people like that and this character very much reminded me of them.

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You have the perfect answer, my friend.

She had bronze currency, which was used very rarely if ever by any of the other "middle-class" characters in the movie. There was no prostitution going on...she was a fundamentalist Christian to a fault. However, her character traits exhibited that of someone who may have been sexually assaulted at some point in her life (her mannerisms and idiosyncratic introvertedness implied this).

Also, she was not hospitable until God or religion was mentioned. So it leads me to believe that she had become a shell, using religion as her only crutch and saving grace to maintain some semblance of balance in life. There are people in real-life who I've come across who act very much the way she did in the film and fit many of the profile traits listed in the post.

But yes, your post makes the most sense.

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she was a fundamentalist Christian


There was the scene where she explained (what seemed like) some of the cosmology of her religious beliefs, and it wasn't anything near the Biblical account of creation. The cosmology might have been cobbled together from different sources and presented as a cohesive fictional element for the film's purposes.

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I thought that the reason Shiro did it was because he just couldn't help himself. Here was a girl so pure that he couldn't stand it, that there could be such pureness in the world. He thought that she needed to be brought down, in a figurative sense, to the level of the rest of the world.

Of course, once he starts, he realizes when he looks at her that this was folly, that it was his own insecurities that made him become a monster. Even though he's a nice guy and all, he realizes that he could not compare with Riquinni.

I didn't think the money was a big deal. I just thought it was her savings or whatever.

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My theory, as much as an inference as other's, but: Riq's stripe of street-corner preaching has long been construed as annoying or disagreeable or what have you (as evident by the barrage of indifference or outright ignoring by lay denizens whenever she is dishing the leaflets).

There are the hue of people who either concur (including views) or pities or lauds or simply pays alms (pocket change; e.g. those tin/copper/lower-currency looking toothpicks) to distant themselves (without harmful emotional backfire) from Riq's gusto for the preaching whilst dually helping her cause.

Little Manna, I surmise, is autistic; hence long silent bouts, the awkward outburst or two and inaction.

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Strangely, I never really connected the money in her shoe to the attempted rape before.

My interpretation of the rape scene was more simple: While she has also been his inspiration for stepping forward for the space flight, Shiro had been physically attracted to Riqini from their first meeting. He had already tried a couple of times to persuade her to sleep with him and she had resisted. He was only days from going into space and possibly dying. You can see when he's watching her legs as she's working at the table what he's thinking about.

Basically, he gets to a point where his lust gets the better of his morals and he tries to force himself onto her. But as he's trying to, it hits him what he's about to do to this woman who has been his inspiration, and he stops. Of course, she still hits him in the head with the lamp because she is terrified.

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I think you're right Bill. It's this straight forward interpretation which I believe was intended. The prostitution theory is plausible to a certain extent, but I think that would completely contradict Riqini's character. What we have is a man about to go into space, in love with a woman who is too pious and pure to be tempted by earthly desires, and this might be his last chance to be with a woman again before he dies strapped to a giant rocket.

The reason he stops himself before going too far is because he suddenly realizes that this is the woman who has inspired him to change his life, not to mention someone he loves.

Later she apologized because forgiveness is in her nature, but also because she has been denying him the love and affection which he clearly craved for so long (she's not apologizing for hitting him in the head, which he clearly deserved).

Some reasons why she doesn't return his love might be because she only has love for God, and because she wants him to have love God to, rather than pretending to have faith just to get with her.

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There's definitely something there. I hadn't considered the military angle. I would think that the things that symbolize domestic comforts would become much more desirable to a GI about to be sent to a war zone...

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I hear a lot of people claim this scene completely destroys the film in the last act, but having given it some thought I don't think it hurts the film at all in literary terms. The build up and hysteria surrounding the main character made his action, monstrous as it was, more understandable, and his guilt over the whole event is handled very well with that last look he gives before being knocked unconscious.

However, I have issues with the followup scene. The two treat it far too nonchalantly, and seemingly just brush it off. A few shots emphasizing their actual feelings beneath their false attitudes would have helped remedy these problems.

A shame, since I'd otherwise consider this one of the best anime films of the eighties (a great decade for feature length projects) and I pray that Gainax will try something like it again one day (though preferably in the hands of Hideaki Anno or some new blood than Hiroyuki Yamaga, whose work since then has been uniformly terrible).

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That was my problem, too. At first I felt like it seemed out of character for him and was just put there, but I guess I can see where the creators were coming from.

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The DVD and Blu-Ray that came out in the UK today has had the sexual assault scene restored, with the certificate being “15” to accommodate the waived cut applied to the earlier version.

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I would say the coins (thin cylinders) falling out of one of her shoes with an awkward clang cast a bad spell over Lhadatt and her being an implied street walker (a poor girl that's attractive and has no other way to put food on the table; hiding money away) may have made her seem like a hypocrite.

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