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I could onlly stand this for 20 minutes


After that i just turned it off and mailed it back to Netflix...does it take longer than that to get into it? Did anybody else have this same problem?

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I fell for it in two seconds! :) (The only thing I had a bit of a problem with, was the ending.)

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Hmm... I thought it moved a bit slow at times, but overall I was amazed by the film. Very artistic without seeming - pretentious.

Note: The above comments are exclusively my opinion.

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i admit this film is hard to get into to for some people because of its avant garde style plus its a foreign film which some people find distracting, but if u really get into it, you will be amazed, try watching it when your absolutly in the mood for something really thoughtful.

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What does this being a foreign film have to do with anything...? People from all over the world, all in all, have more or less the same problems with the movie, or love it for what it is.

Yeah, well, it's really, really slow. Somehow calming. The three different languages spoken in the film add to this, I think. It's hard to catch everything that's been said (and thought).

BUT everything that makes the movie difficult to watch is in fact absolutely needed for the feel of it. You must share the protagonist's isolation, and hey, he's been around since the dawn of time, forever. You must at least get a feeling for what it means to watch the world and its inhabitants for a long, long time. Without the slow pace, the movie wouldn't be able to convey anything.

Sure, this isn't for everyone, and usually, I can fully well appreciate the artistic values of a film, and still hate watching it, but here it somehow worked out for me. I enjoyed the film. Maybe not every minute of it. but maybe I enjoyed some minutes more because I hadn't enjoyed some of the minutes before.

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I think that the previous poster means is that a film spoken in a language other than your own (or english since it's a universal language) will alienate many viewers. It's a common fact for example that many people hate subtitles with a passion.

Did you ever notice that people who believe in creationism look realy un-evolved? - Bill Hicks

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I finally managed to view all the film, from begging to the end, It was nice, heart warming and kinda sad, but still sorta boring... it was a very different movie with a different message, It was worthy in all.

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Yeah. Some people hate to have to be literate and think too! It's just too much for them. Those people are close-minded and petty and somewhat xenophobic too. This film is a masterpiece because it is poetic and astistic without beating you over the head with it. People wo are down on foreign films should try and loosen up and go for the ride without conditions, They may actually find they like what they see,

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It's a common fact for example that many people hate subtitles with a passion.

Yes, idiots.

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You really need to see a whole movie before having an opinion about it that other people can comment on.

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You really should have spent a little more time on it. Of course, if you are a fan of fast-moving action movies or comedies, maybe this isn't your piece of cake. But if you are interested in international or art films, I think you should give it another chance. I would recommend watching it on a day without distractions, when you can devote your undivided attention to it.

In response to the "foreign film" comments: people in non-English speaking countries watch American movies with subtitles, too. I know because I grew up in another country and most films I watched were subtitled or dubbed. I think dubbing is a lot more distracting than subtitles, especially if the voice actors are not top-notch.

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This film is really really slow, and a bit boring, but really BEAUTIFUL, in the black and white scenes. Just beautiful!

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I almost turned it off as well. Very slow start. But after watching enough Jarmusch films, sometimes you just have to give it more time. And, after finishing Wings of Desire, I'm glad I did. Not that it was without its faults. But it definitely starts to get under your skin after a while. Took me about fifteen to recognize it was worth it. But I could see it taking longer for some.

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I was super pumped for an artsy type of film and i put this on and i even had some foreigners over to watch it with me. however, we were all incredibly bored. after about 70 minutes one of my friends left and i spent the rest of the time talking to my other friend because we were so bored. i am the kind of person who never ever likes to stop watching a movie once i've started but i just felt that this was too painful.

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"I was super pumped for an artsy type of film and i put this on and i even had some foreigners over to watch it with me. however, we were all incredibly bored. after about 70 minutes one of my friends left and i spent the rest of the time talking to my other friend because we were so bored. i am the kind of person who never ever likes to stop watching a movie once i've started but i just felt that this was too painful. "

Your friend did the right thing leaving.

ARTSY-FARTSY are the best words to sum up this pretentious piece of work. I saw it about ten years ago, squirming through every second of it. I was only 15 at the time so I gave it another chance about a year ago and again... squirming and shaking my head at its artsy-FARTSYNESS. Turned it off and ran away one hour into it. Is that giving it enough of a chance?
My favourite filmmakers are to name a few Ingmar Bergman, Werner Herzog, Stanley Kubrick and Akira Kurosawa, so no need to say I lack the attention span for "slower" films.

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Actually, all your favorite filmakers have seen this film and like it very much!
For me it was an epiphany when I first saw it at 1989 or 1990. After that I have probably seen it about 10 times and I guess I find it a little boring now. It is just not the kind of film you can enjoy again and again.

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"Actually, all your favorite filmakers have seen this film and like it very much!"

Well... sorry, but I don´t give a damn. Even if they had called it the greatest film ever made I still wouldn´t like it.
Maybe, perhaps, possibly this film was seen as a breath of fresh air when it came out in the middle of the shallow eighties and then instilled some feeble hope in a few old filmmakers. Who knows? I still think it´s crap.

Now I have to run around a little, just thinking about this film has made me cringe.

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Stevie_Muscles, I am curious as to why you thought it was crap since this happens to be one of my favorite films.

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"Artsy-Fartsy" is possibly the stupidest, most vapid criticism anyone can give anything. So what if it's ponderous? So what if it's slow? Why on earth are those bad things in and of themselves? If you're going to point out this movie's flaws - and they exist - you're going to have to do a lot better than that.

Sorry. I'm just tired of people being oversensitive about material that, y'know, actually makes people work to understand it.

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My wife presented this movie to me when we met, three years ago. She swears by it but then again she likes David Lynch films. But I know it has potential. I got a dvd version of it and will watch it soon enough, by the way, I'm a procrasinator.

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I have seen only 36 minutes of the movie, It's very weired so I've not lost my interest in watching the rest but I still have not found a plot...

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"Artsy-Fartsy" is possibly the stupidest, most vapid criticism anyone can give anything."

I completely agree. It is one of the dumbest words in the history of the english language. Seriously, anyone who says "artsy-fartsy" no matter what context it's used in, to me at least sounds like a mentally challenged preschooler.

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My favourite filmmakers are to name a few Ingmar Bergman, Werner Herzog, Stanley Kubrick and Akira Kurosawa, so no need to say I lack the attention span for "slower" films.


You didn't think 2001: A Space Odyssey was slow? It moved at a near-glacial pace.

Anyway, I have to agree with all of you who thought this movie was slow. I like foreign films, I like slow-paced films (well, not all, but then not all fast-paced films are good either), and I get the abstract. But 70 minutes in and I could barely keep my eyelids open- this movie had to go. And I never turn movies off. I think I gave it a fair shot; sitting around for another hour would just have been needless torture. Maybe it's for some people, but I actually like stuff to happen (you know, a plot and all that) in the movies I watch. Glad some of you saw the merit in this film.

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artsy fartsy ? damn you re stupid.

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Friends whose opinion I respect also had problems with it. I suspect part of the problem is that when I saw the film, I was in a theatre, and the shared experience really did help. I also suspect that if I had watched it at home, with all the attendant distractions, I would have been very annoyed by it. I remember there were annoying parts, but having 200+ people to watch it with helped minimize them.

As it was, when I left the theatre, someone walking the other way commented to his girlfriend, "Must have been a heck of a movie." I pulled out of my reverie for a moment, to see that the other 200 people had the same dopey grin on their faces as I had on mine.

But I'll also admit that even though it was my favorite movie ever, I won't watch it a second time. I might not be able to get past the annoying parts in a second viewing (especially at home), and I really, really don't want to ruin the beauty I found the first.

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This is the only movie I've voluntarily gone to see in a theater two days in a row. And I've seen it almost every year since it came out. I find something new in it every time. It's not without its flaws. The talk-a-thon at the end could have used some editing, for example. But for the most part, this film is visual poetry.

I will be going to Berlin in about a week. Can't wait.

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It does take some getting used to. I first saw it years ago and loved it then, and just saw it again last night and loved it even more. Reading the subtitles was like reading poetry. It's a simple, poignant and beautiful film.

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This film is the dream of a mongoose who has never seen a snake and so writes bad poetry.

The monkeys all thought they were alone, all 6 billion of them

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I knew I was going to like this movie before I started watching it. But, last night I started it, and turned it off after 15 minutes, I simply wasn't in the mood for this kind of thing.

I tried again, tonight, was in a much more relaxed state and loved it. You really need to be in the right mood for this one.

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