Sick f**cks who made this should die. - Hei tai yang 731 (1988) Discussion

[–] paschan-1 19 years ago

I have already reported this crime. You should write them too cuz we cannot let this kind of things happen.

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"I have already reported this crime. You should write them too cuz we cannot let this kind of things happen."

I can't believe that the level of idiocy has actually gotten beyond the sheer number of porno movies made to date.. Man...

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[–] n_x 18 years ago

to the original poster: you are an idiot with no sense of history AT ALL. The sick ones are not the director or the cast, but the Japanese people, or rather, monsters----all these things actually happened!!! yes, the Japanese actually committed these unspeakable horrors to the Chinese and Russians in WWII. This movie is simply a realistic portrayal of the Japanese..what, horrors? atrocities? I can't even find a single word in the dictionary that describes what the Japanese are and what they did. You just can't face history and the atrocities committed.

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[–] Koalanoichigo 18 years ago

Hey f u c k you norwegianwood_4000, just because some people committed atrocities, the entire race are "monsters?" Every country in the world has done these types of things some time in history.

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[–] nemesisdesign 18 years ago

OH SHUT UP. Quit getting so butt-hurt because of the way he phrased it. This isn't a thread to discuss race issues. Stop crying.

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[–] teamjimi 17 years ago

Threads like this make me laugh.

Don't concern yourself with child rapists, serial murderers, modern day war criminals or drug pushers that get your kids high...Oh no...have a *beep* hernia over a goddamned movie.

Good call, you're doing this world good.

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[–] blake_mooney8-1 17 years ago

Yes, what happened was fcking disgusting beyond all reason. But don't be such a fcking racist. It's the "Japanese", it was some sick individuals that did it. This does not mean all japanese people are bad. You do realize most countries around the world have done HORRIBLE things?

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[–] Janebo 14 years ago

" the original poster: you are an idiot with no sense of history AT ALL. The sick ones are not the director or the cast, but the Japanese people, or rather, monsters----all these things actually happened!!! yes, the Japanese actually committed these unspeakable horrors to the Chinese and Russians in WWII. This movie is simply a realistic portrayal of the Japanese..what, horrors? atrocities? I can't even find a single word in the dictionary that describes what the Japanese are and what they did. You just can't face history and the atrocities committed"

Omg, I can't believe you called somebody an idiot and spewed your ignorance because you obviously are in need of a history lesson yourself.

Communist China is second only to Hitler and his band of nazis at the top of the actrocity list of murders and experiments committed against "people" in the 20th century. I won't even start on how many have died in South Africa.

There's "monsters" in every single culture, race and nation on this planet, Always Has Been. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like we're going to run out of them any time soon, either. I suggest you get your facts straight before you start screeching like that again.

"I can picture a world without war or hate & I can picture us attacking that world because they'd never expect it"

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[–] lovelygreebo 14 years ago

You stupid idiot, don't band the Chinese communist party with the nazis. Completely different political system under completely different circumstances. Your comparing Communist oppression to the *beep* holocaust?! *beep* idiot!

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[–] Janebo 14 years ago

Wow. You are in need of not only a history lesson but also a how to read AND a "how to speak to other people" lesson.

You are proof a person sure doesn't need a brain to type a few retarded insults on a computer, thank you for your "wisdom". Please feel free to return to whatever bridge it is you crawled out from under.

LMAO!!

"I can picture a world without war or hate & us attacking that world because they'd never expect it"

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[–] Snyder2277 10 years ago

N_x you explained it perfectly...

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[–] aggabarn 18 years ago

you are both hypocrites and spamming cun*s..
get a life, will you?

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[–] tpac76 18 years ago

Whats worst than this movie?
For one: what the Japanese did to the Chinese in WW2. Why don't you use your energy for something that actually matters?

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[–] mike666-1 18 years ago

says the guy who post regularly on steven seagal and jean claude vandamme's pages...

looking at your tastes give me an idea of you I.Q.

don't worry, cat's sure don't like you either, so does me and certainly majority of people on this board...

go rent some kung-fu flicks, write a thesis about it and then come back (according to your mental abilities this day might never come...and that's good news!)

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[–] Oldphan 18 years ago

For what its worth, I have a great deal of respect for this film. I saw it for the first time when I was around 15, and it had an enormous impact on me. Any movie that is brave enough to present us with an image of an extremely unappealing vision of our own reality, is also making an effort to teach us the meaning of right and wrong. I'm glad that this film outrages people. It should outrage people, because what is being presented is despicable, but above all, true. No other movie I can think of plainly spells out the words, THIS MUST NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN, (and by that I meen events like those depicted.) for me than this one.

If the directors methods where perhaps to much, I can only say that in the end, he was right to do what he did, because he truly made the horror of these events real for us... And if people refuse to learn from the mistakes of history, they most certainly learn them through the use of shocking imagery. History becomes only so much paper far to quickly. But the agony of the people depicted in this film stays with the viewer forever and ever... If any thing, the power of this movie is that it teaches us the value of human life. It made me a much more compassionate person in the end, and I love it for that.

Amanda "Oldphan" Sukenick
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[–] mike666-1 18 years ago

Hello Steve,

you are the living proof (not that i ever doubt about it) that you don't always have to be intelligent to have degrees

you are eager to hear since when IQ=TASTES ???
i'm eager to hear since when DEGREES=IQ ???

first: if you take a monkey to a theatre to watch a movie do you think he will care watching the last seagal or the last spielberg? no, he won't...Why? because his intelligence does not allow him to make the difference. therefore he obviously has bad taste in movies or no taste at all or cannot express them so yes tastes and IQ are linked (only for you and the monkey)

even worse, the monkey don't have degrees (so following you no IQ) so he can't choose, you can! and none the less you go for the lowest entertainment by choice! (creepy isn'it?)

not that people who watch stupid action movies are morons, everyone has guilty pleasures, practice martial arts,want pure entertainment for 90 mins or is very young (how old are you by the way?) or has just bad tastes! (wich might be your case)

so considering your pretty stupid reply ( buddy, you say you have degrees and that because of that your IQ can't be low) then explain me why this pointless out of subject post in the middle of a discussion ??????? (THAT last part is one to be taken seriously)

we are talking about a movie and you add your 2 cents regarding your hate for cats???????

i admit that your supposely low IQ and your tastes were pretty easy targets but the main reason was: with such a post AND a passion for pretty low entertainement...we are like your hero might say: on deadly ground

as an intelligent personn you are supposed to be able to read between the lines...if you do so you won't react to the IQ remark but think about how useless your intervention was.

bye,
Mike

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[–] mike666-1 18 years ago

i'm delighted by your answer Steve !

have a nice day
Mike

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[–] omae_no_baka 18 years ago

The Japanese may have been barbaric and did many horrific things during the war, but so have many other peoples of the world. Let us not forget the pilgrims butchering the indians, or the british killing masses of people in India. The Nazis attempting to wipe out an entire race, and the impact of mussolini and stalin.

Norwegianwood seems to have a hatred for all things Japanese. This comes from ignorance. I live in Japan now and am shocked that some of these calm, peace-loving people once comitted these crimes. Japan has changed, the people here are honest and decent (of course there are exceptions). Racial stereotypes are dangerous and cannot be tolerated in todays society if we are to move forward.

Please think before you post again.

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[–] omae_no_baka 18 years ago

Yeah I wasnt talking to you...

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[–] pickolos80 18 years ago

Okay, let me tell you the difference between sickos watching real videos of human beings being shot and this cats horrible dying scene.
It is that YOU people accept this cats death, sure it may be fun to watch it but you still accept that he uses the cat to die.
You don't question that he uses the cat for information and entertainment, you just accept it and complain about that we don't complain about real video peoples head getting blown off.

When people are watching peoples head getting blown off for real and so, they would never do it in real life, and I don't really know why they think it's fun to watch it, but I don't think that they think it's right to blow of someone's head, if they had the chance to kill the people that executes other human beings in these videos, most of them surely would.

The execution films of humans are not accepted by ANYONE in real life, it's serious *beep* but most people can't do anything about it, so they for some reason think it's fun to watch these videos.

The cat film is accepted, we can do something about it, I don't know but we could probably easily find the director of the movie, so here we can make a difference much easier.
Well... That's like.. my opinion :D

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[–] BlueCypress 18 years ago

Actually, the Japanese haven't changed as they still do not even apologize for what happended. In fact although grandmothers now, "Comfort Women" all throughout Asia still hold demonstrations regularly, but the Japanese government refuse to ackowledge these womens claims and have never paid compensation.

If you look at the history text books of a Japanese school, you would never know that the Japanese murdered millions of other Asians by physical means, and another 30 million through starvation by the diversion of food to feed their armies. It does not mention forced labor of many people, Koreans, Chinese, Mongolians, etc. who died in the ditches or mines.

On another note, it's funny how a lot of people get angry by the treatment of animals, but could care less about millions of people being treated that way. Even as I type this there are people being exploited and murdered and raped. Yet you don't see people caring about that as much as seeing a cat be killed.

I've actually seen pictures from the "medical" experiments carried out by Japanese doctors on live human beings. You think a movie showing a cat dying is disturbing? Why don't you take a look at those pictures and "report to the authories" about the Japanese.

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[–] user-19886 13 years ago

I know hey

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[–] crimsonjassic 18 years ago

I don't understand why people are freaking out over this one scene. You act as if the director brutally murdered children or something.

So an animal is eaten by other animals. So what? Do you people forget that this sort of thing happens everyday all over the world? Lions eat zebras alive, bears eat fish alive, cats eat mice alive. So now, just 'cause the mice are the ones eating the cat it's some gigantic scandal that warrants everyone getting their crow bars and beating the director senseless for? You people are such drama queens. Get over it already.

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[–] razor_blade_smile 18 years ago

Another bonehead
Yes animals do die every day ,getting eaten by zebras etc,but that is nature .Nature is not getting a defencless cat and shoving it in a small glass enclosure crammed with starving rats just to put bums on seats.I have no problems with nature docs etc as they show how mature works uninterupted by man.The scene in men behind the sun was only done for shock value.And what do you know.It worked a treat.The film would have been no different had this scene not been shot.All animal life should be treated with the respect that it deserves,and animal cruelty should not be glorified.Had this film been shot in a western country ,he director and the rest of the crew would have been dragged in to court and would have been made accountable for their horrid actions.Maybe someone should make a movie where you crimsonjassic are shoved in to a small room of ravenous rats...The see how much of a "drama queen" you are...
Peace out!!!!

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[–] vampirehunterD11 18 years ago

if this is so terrifying, imagine it being real. This may not be based on these specific characters, but this *beep* actually happened during the WWII era...

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[–] syro1 18 years ago

^cinminuss - shut your trap you fat piece of sh it. Go rape your mother.

Yes animals do die every day ,getting eaten by zebras etc,but that is nature .Nature is not getting a defencless cat and shoving it in a small glass enclosure crammed with starving rats just to put bums on seats.I have no problems with nature docs etc as they show how mature works uninterupted by man.The scene in men behind the sun was only done for shock value.And what do you know.It worked a treat.The film would have been no different had this scene not been shot.All animal life should be treated with the respect that it deserves,and animal cruelty should not be glorified.Had this film been shot in a western country ,he director and the rest of the crew would have been dragged in to court and would have been made accountable for their horrid actions.Maybe someone should make a movie where you crimsonjassic are shoved in to a small room of ravenous rats...The see how much of a "drama queen" you are...

I totally agree here.

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[–] grrrdevin 17 years ago

Yes animals do die every day ,getting eaten by zebras etc

HAHAHAHA YEP GOTTA WATCH OUT FOR THEM ZEBRAS, THEY'LL STRIKE WHEN YOU LEAST EXPECT IT!

"I've been living off toxic waste for years, and I'm fine! Just ask my other heads!"

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[–] greatnitin-1 13 years ago

So it's ok if Discovery channel shows Animal attacking Animal (even though they could have stopped the aggressive animal from eating out another animal). We watch and we are like OMG that's so gross and when show is over we are back to normal. But this movie which was made 19 years back and scene of cat makes you all do YMCA. While you forgot the corpse scene in compression chamber, it should be subject like they should let dead people alone in grave not to show for entertainment that's not funny.

Ye twisted world. It's ok to watch Taliban cutting heads on internet but not Animal killing Animal in Film. On discovery it's ok not in movie. Hypocrites.

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[–] Ace19444 18 years ago

what? there are tons of cows and pigs killed every day in grusome ways for us to eat and you're upset about one *beep* cat? You probably didn't care as much when they burned the rats, did you?

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[–] jaamy 18 years ago

Ahh yet another moron.
Have you ever visited an abottoire? Obviously not.
Also do cows and pigs get killed simply for your entertainment pleasure? No. The cat WAS. THAT is what is pi55ing so many people off.

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[–] grrrdevin 17 years ago

Also do cows and pigs get killed simply for your entertainment pleasure? No. The cat WAS.

No, it wasn't killed (if at all) for entertainment. Watch the movie and figure out the context of the scene.

"I've been living off toxic waste for years, and I'm fine! Just ask my other heads!"

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[–] jaamy 18 years ago

You really have a hard time grasping what this is all about don't you? Read through the thread again properly and you will see that noone is saying that the human content the film PORTRAYED isn't bad.
What you are totally failing to see is that not ONE human was killed or harmed for the purpose of the movie. Yet an animal WAS.

Do you get it now? Although i seriously doubt you ever will somehow.

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[–] jonathanburhan 18 years ago

WHat an idiot. When real people die in footage, it'a just nature, ya'know. It's like watching a Nature Documentary. It's educational! Now you can call me sick, but those things don't usually happen for entertainments sake. Watching someone get hit by a train, and happened to be caught on camera. The cameraman/woman is caught in the wilderness and taking great shots of wild animals killing each other. The train, you see, is transportation for one wild animal, and then it is used by accident to totally crush another. It's called an accident!

So what about when cops blow some guy away? Camera is filming, but usually not for a movie, but rather for evidence and proof of events that took place (Media for example, even though I hate them as much as most people).

My point? If someone picked up a camera, gets a small baby (can do basically same things as a cat really) and throw them in a pit of lions then get the camera rolling, make a movie clip and shove it online, then it would be WRONG..Not wrong to watch it, but wrong to complain that it's "All good". Animals should be treated as fairly as humans, because guess what, and here's a news update for those who aren't aware, without our feline friends (cat's for idiots who don't know this word), then there'd be a lot more dead bodies all over the place and murders. You know what? In most Western Societies, cat's are considered welcomed companions, and you know what else? Cats are USED to SOOTH mentally ill patients with depression, more than dogs. Do some google searching and you'll find out that mentally Ill SOCIOPATHS (Actually it's just a personality disorder, I hate the word mental illness), which is in fact, Antisocial Personality Disorder, get pleasure and relaxation from have an animal companion such as a cat. Dogs are not used for sociopath treatment as much as cats. So here you go, many people whjo don't care about social rules or morals, without cats would be increased and more murders would take place. CATS ARE REQUIRED, and they save YOUR families lives. So to all the morons who enjoy watching the cat die, here's something to think about. Every 1,000 or so domestic cat or so that dies, so does an innocent human.

NOW GET TO GOOGLE and do your mother *beep* research bitches!

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[–] jonathanburhan 18 years ago

Yeah it was sort of random. My apology, didn't put it where it should have bee,

I'm not calling you an idiot either, I was calling someone who posted before you an idiot. I just happen to hit reply on the latest comment in that chain, which was yours.

As for agreeing with some fool who thinks people should die because of a cat, then the answer is no, I don't agree with him/her. I like cats, in fact, I *beep* love them, but who in the hell does someone think a person should die because a cat died. Ok, so maybe the person who actually had the bright idea of putting that cat in there should be put in their place..and I'll go as far as saying that the person who actually put that cat in there, AND the rats, and burned the rats, should be tortured or beaton to a pulp. That just how I conduct business (lol sorry bad joke). But seriously!!! I've read stuff with people saying the whole crew should be killed. In our Nations of Laws, I believe punishment is given, not always death. Animals DO have rights, and co-exist with humans just as much. They should have their own laws, which they do, and we should not interrupt them.

Personally I would kill the person who picked that cat up and put it in there, and beat the hell out of the person who came up with the idea, until their innards spew out a little, but they live of course. I would avenge the death of my fellow feline friends, who I bow down to, as much as they bow down to me.

And as for the cat dying, and people enjoying it, there's some fool that posted in here saying that he found it amusing. You'll find that a lot of dedicated dog lovers are more likely to see a cat as vermin, instead of the opposite.

NO ONE should DIE because of the loss of the cat. You know why? Because NO one will EVER know the truth behind who did what. It's all under wraps, because if someone from the crew came forward and said "It was all my idea, and I put the cat in there", I'm sure the person would be dead. Fair trade if you ask me. A life is a life, regardless of animal or human. Heck, if you dig up my potatoes that are growing, I'm going to get my spade and crush your skull with it! NO ONE touches my mother *beep* potatoes.

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[–] keane_keane_keane 15 years ago

Actually, the autopsy scene was an actual living autopsy, that was a real beating human heart cut from the body. A human did die for this movie, whether the crew filmed it or not. Frankly, if I had to save a human life or a cat's life, as much as I'm a cat lover, and have a cat which I love dearly. Also, as hard as that scene was for me to watch, I will always choose the human, and find my other post for my feeling on the reasoning of the cat. And frankly, I'm hoping NO ONE found "entertainment" in that scene, as everyone keeps saying that it was.

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[–] jimmymcturd 18 years ago

I agree with 11011001 but I must say that watching beheadings etc on the net is worse than watching an animal die, but it's all sick crap anyway. If you watch those kind of videos or enjoy the cat scene then I feel sorry for you. Nothing should be subjected to that kind of treatment just so sick b*stards can derive pleasure from watching it on video, animal or human alike. The whole 'animal rights' thing is pointless and irrelevant- I don't disapprove of this scene because I like cats or animals in general but because I don't watch a film to see living things getting tortured, and therefore it shouldn't be in a professional film.

If you want to see that kind of thing for real you don't have to look far- what we expect from a movie is a clever false portrayal of those kinds of acts to expose just how disgusting and inhuman they are, not the acts themselves.

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