To America

This is true, America kicks the most ass.




"Death solves all problems - no man, no problem." - Joseph Stalin

Wow. I've read some ignorant posts on this board in my day, but this one, this one is pretty special.

I strongly suggest that you educate yourself about the history behind the events depicted in this film before commenting further.

One, Americans have never committed atrocities on the level of Nazi Germany or early twentieth century Imperial Japan. Yes, Americans should stand up and admit their complicity in burying Japanese war crimes after VJ-Day, but in no way was bartering for intelligence even remotely equitable to what was done by the Japanese to get that intelligence, nor have the Americans ever engaged in the wholesale slaughter, cruelty and barbarism that the Japanese Imperial Army routinely relished in. Also, unlike any other nation at the time, Japan in its entirety was engaged in total war; the Japanese people could not hide behind ignorance in the same way that the populations of the other Axis nations could as knowledge of Japanese wartime atrocities, from genocide and comfort women to so-called "killing contests", were very much so publicly known.

Two, your oversimplification of the American bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki show a woefully small, if not outright abysmal, understanding of WWII era history in general. The Japanese had repeatedly refused all terms of negotiation or surrender, such as the Potsdam Declaration, and Japan as a nation was mobilised to defend their country at all costs. Had the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki not taken place the Allied forces would have been forced to resort to a land invasion, Operation Downfall, which would have lived up to its name and absolutely decimated Japan. Casualties on both sides would have been exponentially higher, particularly for the Japanese, whose civilian citizens were expected to resist invasion and defend Kyushu to the death. After Operation Downfall, Japan as a nation would have been crippled and more than likely divvied up between the Americans and the Russians for occupation, much like the similarly land invaded Germany.

Further, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were specifically chosen because they were military targets that were large enough to provide the show of force needed to swiftly end the war but were not as large or as historically significant as other cities. Also, the routine, long term firebombing of Japan prior to the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki had arguably caused just as much, if not more, civilian casualties and damaged infrastructure as the atomic bombs themselves. The firebombing of Tokyo alone resulted in at least 80,000 to 100,000 deaths.

Also, just to add a little perspective, it's quite arguable that more people suffered and died, very horrifically I must add, in the Nanking Massacre at Japanese hands than in both of the atomic bombings combined. The Japanese were also actively engaged in genocide, via biological warfare and other means, through Unit 731 and other such institutions, and unlike the Nazi camps, there were no survivors. An Allied prisoner of war had a much higher chance of survival in a Nazi POW camp than in a Japanese one, where starvation, torture, executions, slave labour and yes, even human experimentation, were common practices.

Not only that, but the Japanese to this day refuse to admit that they had ever committed any atrocities, their revisionist textbooks completely omit any mention of their countless and horrific war crimes, and their war criminals are actually enshrined and memorialised in Tokyo's Yasukuni Shinto Shrine. Bear in mind that this inexcusable behaviour is entirely unlike Germany, where it's illegal to be a Nazi or a Holocaust denier.

This thread was to make a point that while what Hitler and the Japanese did was terrible and disgusting the things you have done and continue to do to this day are just as bad.

You don't even know English.

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Make no mistake, those suffering and killing were way painful than you could ever imagine.

It is easy for you to say lightly that Japanese were horrible at that time, or what is done is done, etc. If your contry was suffering from those killing, raping and experiments the Chinese has suffered during the Japanese invasion, you would beg a dozen bombs to nuke on that evil country who was responsible.

I'm not saying that US has not done anything wrong in the past or present, but that cannot deny what they did to end the 8-year Japanese invasion was right and necessary.

I just hope that such nightmare would not happen again, and the nuke should not be used again.

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I'm rich and divorced

This is by far the most entertaining post I've ever read on IMDB. Wow, I should get back to work now.

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What do you mean "you"? I didn't nuke anybody. Are all Canadians as dumb as you?

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