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Did Marines in boot camp . . .


. . . have access to their rifles and live ammo? Wouldn't the weapons be stowed in a safe place, especially at night?

I disagree with what you are saying, but I will fight to your death for your right to say it;-)

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As I recall from Army basic training (in 1968), rifles were kept in the barracks, accessible to the trainees for cleaning, drills and marching. If I remember correctly, authorized possession of ammunition was restricted to the firing ranges, where it was issued in exact amounts required for each range activity. Of course, it would have been easy enough to steal and conceal a small amount of ammunition, as "Pyle" apparently did. A normal trainee would not have risked being caught with contraband ammunition, but someone bent on murder wouldn't have concerned himself with that sort of risk, especially if it were stolen late in the training cycle, just prior to the intended murder(s).

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As I recall from Army basic training (in 1968), rifles were kept in the barracks, accessible to the trainees for cleaning, drills and marching. If I remember correctly, authorized possession of ammunition was restricted to the firing ranges, where it was issued in exact amounts required for each range activity. Of course, it would have been easy enough to steal and conceal a small amount of ammunition, as "Pyle" apparently did. A normal trainee would not have risked being caught with contraband ammunition, but someone bent on murder wouldn't have concerned himself with that sort of risk, especially if it were stolen late in the training cycle, just prior to the intended murder(s).


Same type of situation at Parris Island in 1979 when I was there....

Iran is not a terrorist country!...LittleZeke aka: "LittleBrain" 3/10/15

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Thank you both. I was thinking that the whole scenario was implausible, if not impossible, but I guess it was plausible, although rare.

I disagree with what you are saying, but I will fight to your death for your right to say it;-)

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Thank you both. I was thinking that the whole scenario was implausible, if not impossible, but I guess it was plausible, although rare.


At Parris Island in 1979 when I was there the rifles were locked to our racks with cable locks with each recruit wearing the key (wich also fit the lock on our footlocker) on a chain we wore on our necks.

The ammo part would be more problematic with ammo only available at the range and at the end of each range day being searched by having to turn out all out pockets etc....but someone really bent on getting a round or two out would have been able to do it by stashing it in their boot or something like that.

The main detriment to something like that was the complete holy shítstorm that would have come down on you by the DI's if you were discovered later on to have taken a live round back to the barracks....LOL!

But overall it was completely within the realm of possibility....

Iran is not a terrorist country!...LittleZeke aka: "LittleBrain" 3/10/15

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A surprising amount of lack of discipline, reality, and constant stupidity done by stupid soldiers for stupid viewers in a surprisingly stupid movie about a stupid war that would gone on for a 1,000 years & more but others got riches and/or fame on the dead & brutalized bodies of so many thousand, for what? To show the powerlessness & constant stupidity of humans? Ready for national & world chaos, American civil war & world war??? You don't have to be, because it's ready for you!

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Movies789 and kdmmick are correct. That was exactly the situation during my Army Basic Training in 1972. As you were about to leave the rifle range you had to shout loudly "No brass or ammo, sir!" I didn't understand at the time why that was a big deal. Now I do.

The comedians in our platoon would lampoon that later by shouting "No ass or bramo, sir!"

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and yet all the US civilians at home are allowed to have ammo coming out their asses 24/7

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DAMN STRAIGHT! I have hundreds of rounds for my AR-15 and my P-38. An armed population are citizens. An unarmed population are slaves. That's why all the dictators, Stalin, Mao, Hitler, disarmed their civilian populations.

As someone once said:

"Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for lunch. LIBERTY is a WELL ARMED Sheep contesting the vote."

And BTW, that policy was instrumental in 14 people being killed by a Muslim Terrorist at Ft. Hood. If they had access to their weapons, they could have stopped that towel headed asshole!

Did you know that 262,000,000 innocent unarmed civilians were murdered by their own governments in the 20th Century? And that's more than ALL the soldiers killed in ALL the wars of the 20th Century. But you didn't know that, did you? Cause the dishonest, left biased MSM has covered that up.

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Yeah, nothing wrong with that.

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The marine recruits kept their rifles on them at all times, they even slept with them. It is not hard to steal ammo when you have been on the range. I was in the RMR UK and we were made to swear an oath that we did not have any live ammo after being on the range - I never saw anyone being searched.

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I don't know about the Marines, but when I was in Army boot camp (July to September 1972) some idiot tried to desert with an M-16 and ten rounds of ammunition! He didn't get far.

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