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Heinz vs. Castro and Willie

posted 15 years ago by Edward_de_Vere
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In this movie, the audience is "supposed" to detest Heinz and see Castro and Willie as heroes for shooting him.

The fact is, I found Heinz to be somewhat sympathetic - his crimes are crimes of passion, fueled by rage, which at least makes him seem human. Castro and Willie, in contrast, are cold-blooded murderers (they killed their teacher just for fun, and to have a day to play hooky) and hooligans (they destroy people's property for kicks).

If anything, it was Castro and Willie who should have been tossed off the roof, not Heinz (who should just have been put away in an insane asylum for a life).

[–] funkyfry 14 years ago

Absolutely, I hadn't seen this movie in 10 years or so and I rewatched it last night, and I really wonder how those 2 guys aren't going to be put away or something.

Did I not love him, Cooch? MY OWN FLESH I DIDN'T LOVE BETTER!!! But he had to say 'Nooooooooo'

[–] amarcordian 12 years ago

Another point of comparison:
Heinz attempted to rape Linda - It could be said that Willie and Castro DID "date-rape" Melanie and Brita (who were drunk, on pills and huffing glue and woke up naked and not remembering a thing, clearly taken advantage of). Willie and Castro get off scott free whereas Heinz is incarcerated and then killed.

Given the political sub-plots (involving race relations, presidential candidates) I have to wonder if the writer is trying to make a statement about how different people (countries maybe even?) can do the same things while one is condemned and the it's business as usual for the other.

[–] ec1979 11 years ago

Heinz is a textbook psychopath. I am surprised you had sympathy for him. He is violent, thrives off intimidation, and has not qualms about killing animals or committing rape. I don't think the other two are supposed to be heroes per se. I think their act at the end is an odd way of balancing out their earlier crime. Or, perhaps that teacher was a bad guy...we don't know the story behind it. The girls they were with could have been raped by them but we don't know that for sure, and they went on to spend the day with them. My point is, I think the boys are deliberately ambiguous characters, but Heinz is clearly a dangerous, bad person.

[–] compact_disc_rack 11 years ago

I might have agreed with this 15 years ago when I was in my mid-to-late-teens, feeling alienated from society or whatever, relating to the depressed freak Heinz. But he was just a psycho. It's insane that they let him do whatever he wanted. Even the girl wouldn't report him to the police. In a way she had it comin' when came for her later on.

I haven't given a thought about the other two guys. Obviously no one knew they were the guys with the arrow until that last scene, so during the film people had no real reason to hate them. I wonder if there was any message.