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What would you have 'fixed' on Star Trek: TNG?


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I’d have included more of the “Navy” feel as done by Nicholas Meyer in “The Wrath of Khan” and “The Undiscovered Country”.

NO KIDS ON THE ENTERPRISE! Seriously, you’ve seen the danger the ship gets into! Diseases, hostile takeovers, time travel paradoxes, and hell, there was a section of the ship that was removed by the Borg! You want to put kids through that?! It’s one of the most insane decisions I’ve seen. On Deep Space 9, a space station orbiting a planet, having kids around makes sense given the circumstances… but on a Starfleet vessel heading out into the unknown, it does NOT.

The uniforms. They’re not practical or functional. I’m sorry to people who like jumpsuits and onesies, but if you’re exploring new places, you need some pockets and utility.

The attitude/smugness. TNG was decidedly smug about themselves, sometimes almost to the point of arrogance.

I really appreciated Nick Meyer’s interpretations of the Star Trek universe, where people make mistakes, science can be overwhelming, and space is a dangerous place. Even when these lessons were driven home, the effect was temporary, at best. I really appreciated the original series films because life and death were constantly hanging in the balance.

Actual fighting.

I can’t even say how sick to death I am of the lame hand-to-hand combat on Star Trek shows. It’s had already been about 20 years since the original show when TNG came out, and somehow, they made fighting look even WORSE than the silly fistfights Kirk used to get into. TNG’s fight choreography was abysmal. These people are supposed to be explorers, yes, but they should know how to fight, too. I’m so sick of a single palm strike or a Tai Chi class on TNG supposedly being some ‘advanced Klingon martial art’.

Keep the optimism… but temper it with the knowledge that humanity isn’t perfect yet, and needs to keep working hard.

It’s actually why Ben Sisko is my favorite Star Trek character. In the course of “Deep Space 9” we see him as a character grow and change. It’s hard to argue that Kirk, Janeway, or Picard really change very much in their shows; by contrast, Sisko has to with being a grieving widow, a Starfleet commander, a religious icon to a religion he doesn’t even believe in, (while being a Federation citizen, which appears to value atheism over religious ‘superstition’), and a father. By the end of the show, he’s grown in every area, has explored his brighter and darker elements to his personality, (seriously, watch “In the Pale Moonlight”) gotten re-married, and actually considers retiring to Bajor. More like Ben Sisko, please!

More transfers, and more promotions! Starfleet should be able to shake up the roster as needed.

Captain Jellico became Captain of the Enterprise while Picard was on a dangerous mission. He was only the Captain for two episodes, but he quickly became one of my favorite Captains in all of Star Trek! Even though he was only there for a short time, his demand for professionalism changed Deanna Troi for the rest of the series, (and the films), as she stopped wearing her casual clothes and dressed in uniform ever since… she even became interested in chasing a promotion and being in command!

Jellico also had a completely different management style, outlook, and history than Picard. For two glorious episodes, the social dynamic on the ship was completely turned around… and personally, I would have loved to have seen more of this! Characters got pushed and changed by a Captain with a different outlook… I would have loved to have seen what would have happened if Jellico had stayed. Would Riker have finally decided it was time to become a Captain himself and left the ship? Would Data have been promoted permanently to first officer where he was now in charge of Riker’s old job… but without Riker’s charm?

It was also amazing to see a very competent, very capable, yet very different Captain step onto the Enterprise. There’s no doubt in my mind Jellico could have been an excellent Captain for the flagship for the long haul, and it would have been a very interesting switch.

Ensign Ro Laren is another great example. She came in with fire and rebellion, and had a character arc that took her many different places. Her presence also started challenging other members of the crew and opened up a lot new possibilities. Like I said, I loved TNG because they DID have good ideas, they just always kept coming back to the status quo with the main cast instead of letting these characters continue to evolve.

Not everyone should be on the ship forever; but if they’re in our line of sight, we should be seeing them growing and changing.

I love Geordi! Levar Burton was one of my favorite TV show hosts on “Reading Rainbow” when I was a kid, and THE reason I tuned into every episode I could of “TNG”. But what killed me was that Geordi never really changed… ever.

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I always felt there needed to be a lot more of Troi doing her job and being a useful member of the crew. Her being the psychiatrist and the crew being forced to endlessly conduct therapy checkups with her is a wonderful writing device to actually get into the character's heads and learn what they're thinking and feeling while tacking the show's problems of the week. This was utilized from time to time, in particular with Barclay. I think the show could have used a lot more of that. It didn't help that a lot of scenes that should have belonged to Troi got shuttled over to Guinan, cause a wise bartender is just a way more sexy way to go about that exact sort of thing.

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Creative special effects on humanoid aliens, I know classic Star Trek had plenty of human looking aliens but TNG was just as bad, some aliens looked and acted like humans, Code of Honor (Terrible episode!) for example, whilst other aliens like the Bajorans and Trill had lazy make up added to them, there are loads more uninspired aliens in the show, I’d of loved for Star Trek to be a little more creative, like they were with the Ferengi for example.

The problem was they had far too many episodes a season and basically rushed the guest appearance aliens. I’d always groan when I saw some new humanoid alien who looked like a generic Californian dude but with a messed up nose.

I know TNG answered this with a brilliant episode called The Chase but that’s still no excuse for the lazy make up so often applied, and in later shows too.

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NUMBER1= Kids on the ship.

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Bingo.

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No kids on the ship! The Enterprise is a combat vessel when it needs to be, for fuck's sake!

And then, I would either have removed Data entirely and replaced him with someone gruff like Drax from "Guardians of the Galaxy", or actually made sure he was played as having no emotions. Yes, he talked a lot about having no feelings, but then he'd go and act curious or wistful or offended, whatever Spiner or the writers wanted to do for effect. The character was horribly realized, and MUCH more annoying than Troi. Or even Wesley.

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And of course, I would have had a character with a sense of humor right from the start!


Riker developed a mild sense of humor after a few years, but too little, too late.

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It's funny, because the cast is very funny on their own and supposedly had a blast making the series due to the overwhelming humor present on the set.

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It really is sad, that none of that came through onto the show. Because it'd be realistic, people in isolated or stressful situations can be very funny, it's a way to cope, deal with stress, get along, banish fear, and so on.

TOS could be very funny, and not just the episodes that were deliberately comedic. Spock and McCoy bitching at each other could be very funny, and then there was the random stuff like "I'LL TAKE YOU HOME AGAIN KATHLEEEEEEEEN" repeated at the most stressful moments in a suspense episode. TNG really could have benefitted from some of those hilarious, absurd moments, the show's biggest flaw was that it took everything so seriously.

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Less of Troi's mother.

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I refuse to watch any episodes with her in it, but I did a short fan fiction in my head where Troi's mother gets smote with that Veron-T (sp?) disruptor.

Yeah, I would love that episode...

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She’s technically in every episode of TNG, DS9 and Voyager, and almost of all the Star Trek games and movies too since she voices the ships computer.

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That was Majel Barrett, not Troi's mother..


Of topic, but I think it was a sin what they did to Barrett in TOS. Her character in the pilot as #1 was amazing. Too bad they couldn't have been more insightful and not dropped the character. That was Barrett's best role IMO. Too bad they reduced her to a blonde beehived nurse in a miniskirt.


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No crappy follow-up series about the Captain in his old age.

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Yeah, we all know Picard went senile in his old age, but we didn't realise the same was true of Patrick Stewart for being actively involved in such TV bullshit!

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I loved Jellico. He brought realistic discipline to the encounter group in space. The "insecurities" aspect they did was a cheap hall-pass for their tepid status quo. Would I have wanted Jellico instead of Picard? Hell no. Picard was great. But Jellico did shine a light on what was wrong with the way things were being done on a Star Fleet ship. A Picard one step closer to being Jellico would have been perfect.

I disagree with OP on Sisko. I hated the character and the actor. I stuck with DS9 for 3 seasons and enjoyed some episodes but overall disliked it. For as bad as Voyager was, I liked it more.

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I agree. For all the style differences between Picard and Jellico and the butting of heads on philosophy with the crew, in the end, they showed that he was still able to get the job done and that he was concerned about the welfare of other Starfleet officers even though he went about doing it a different way than the Enterprise crew was accustomed to.

It was better than the standard cut and dry "The regular heroes way is right, and his way is wrong" portrayal that always happens on TV.

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I don't think that makes him deeply flawed. Captain Picard also pretends to confident to cover his insecurities. Of course Troi would never out him to the rest of the crew for this. But Beverly Crusher did call him out when she sensed him doing it in the episode where they are linked Telepathically. Picard responds by saying "there are times when it's necessary for a captain to give the appearance of confidence." So if anything this makes Jellico a good captain. He doesn't let his fears and insecurities rule him. He is still able to appear confident regardless of how he is feeling inside.

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I agree there should not have been kids on the ship (not just Wesley). Considering how the original series had no kids, I'm surprised TNG did.

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number 1...kids on ship

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