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Red Dawn; this is not.


I remember being in Junior High, totally wanting this to be the next Red Dawn...I was completely disappointed.

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Why, because you wanted some crappy rambo type film instead of a realistic scenario of what would happen should a foreign country occupy your country. Face it, you wouldn't have an unrealistic scenario of 8 teens saving your ass, in fact, you would be damn lucky if you didn't parish in a gulag if something like this happened.

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neither was a likely scenario

fact is the USA invading the USSR was several times a more likely scenario during the cold war, than the other way around

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fact is the USA invading the USSR was several times a more likely scenario during the cold war, than the other way around

Bull!

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Amerika has happen. The US have been taken over by the NWO. Bush Sr. Clinton, Bush Jr. and Obama... all puppets turning the US into a police state worse than the soviet union.

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Well I wouldn't say that. But, I do agree with how your recent presidents has allowed a l ot of your freedoms to be taken away and regard the constitution as just a simple piece of paper.

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At no point in the 1980s was the USSR even close to invading the United States. Hell, they couldn't even run their own bankrupt, unraveling system in the 1980s. And believe me, Ronald Reagan had no intention whatsoever of invading the USSR. So both Red Dawn and Amerika are even more escapist than The Wizard of Oz.



"You can dish it out, but you got so you can't take it no more." - Caesar Enrico Bandello

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Its precisly that sort of fear which leads to extremeism.
"voices of opprotunity were listened to in moscow as the book says.
Our Islamo fascist foes may be next God help us

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Agreed it was far more likely we'd attack the USSR than the USSR attack the USA. Folks forget that is was the USAF General Curtis LeMay who developed AND PROMOTED the idea of a massive surprise nuclear attack on the USSR some Sunday morning, targetting their cities in order to kill off the majority of the Russian populace.

Nowadays of course we know the real threat is a Corporate Fascist takeover of the government. Look at the GOP politicians and their slavedog relationship with their corpoprate masters.

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''Agreed it was far more likely we'd attack the USSR than the USSR attack the USA. Folks forget that is was the USAF General Curtis LeMay who developed AND PROMOTED the idea of a massive surprise nuclear attack on the USSR some Sunday morning, targetting their cities in order to kill off the majority of the Russian populace.

Nowadays of course we know the real threat is a Corporate Fascist takeover of the government. Look at the GOP politicians and their slavedog relationship with their corpoprate masters.''

Couldn't have said it better myself and about 99% of the times the Cold War escalated were due to the actions of the USA, who, unlike the USSR, also actually used nuclear weapons on civilians (twice in Japan). The USA posed more of a threat to world piece than the USSR ever did.



Formerly KingAngantyr

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The USA posed more of a threat to world piece than the USSR ever did.

It's too bad we can't magically sentence you to live in the former Soviet Union for five years. Your distorted view of history reminds me of the writings of a young Lee Harvey Oswald before he renounced his U.S. citizenship and began living in Moscow.

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It's too bad we can't magically sentence you to live in the former Soviet Union for five years. Your distorted view of history reminds me of the writings of a young Lee Harvey Oswald before he renounced his U.S. citizenship and began living in Moscow.


Your view of history is distorted by being a cretinous right-wing imbecile. The USSR declared a NFU (no first use) policy in 1982, just as China had in 1964, whereas the USA never declared such a policy and neither did NATO in general. The USA also actively fought in more anti-communist wars than the USSR fought in anti-capitalist wars. I stand by my earlier comment. A scenario where world peace is shattered by the USSR is less likely than one where NATO has put world peace on the back-burner.

It is also idiotic thinking that internal oppression means a country is a threat to world peace. Iran had horrific internal issues for decades and still does, yet they do not pose a threat to world peace unlike the USA who has been fighting deadly wars of regime change. Think more logically next time.

Formerly KingAngantyr

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Folks forget that is was the USAF General Curtis LeMay who developed AND PROMOTED the idea of a massive surprise nuclear attack on the USSR some Sunday morning, targetting their cities in order to kill off the majority of the Russian populace.


Curtis LeMay never "PROMOTED" a "massive surprise nuclear attack" against the USSR. Politically motivated writers have taken out of context quotes from LeMay speeches on various Strategic Air Command war plans and scenarios to paint a false picture.

What's really important is this: In the USA, politicians are in charge and the President is the Commander-in-Chief of all U.S. forces. Generals are just tools for the politicians if the latter decide to go to war.

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Actually, Amerika strikes me more like 1984 than RD.

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