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People who call Harry Potter a rip off shut up and read this.


I read and watched (film, series) The Worst Witch when I was little, both different.

Harry Potter is an orphan his parents where murdered by a Dark Wizard who tried to murder him for years, the Dark Wizard has followers called Death Eaters. Harry had to live with his horrible relatives, he slept in a cupboard under the stairs for years, until he got his letter for Hogwarts.

Harry Potter - Magical boarding school in a castle also a wizarding war.
The Worst Witch - Just a Magical boarding school in a castle.

Both very different castles.
Hogwarts has four poster beds, vanishing steps and enchanted ceiling.

Oh and in The Worst Witch the teachers have witchy names Miss Hardbroom and Miss Cackle. None of the teachers in Harry Potter have names like that.

How about a Tournament that people have died in so they had to raise the age to 17+ (Harry Potter).

Harry Potter is wizards and witches with broomsticks for sports. Harry used his broom in the Tournament.
The brooms in Harry Potter are called racing brooms and have names like Firebolt.
The Worst Witch is like every other story about witches with brooms. That had been around for over 100 years.

In later Harry Potter books 4-7 they are quite dark very different to The Worst Witch. Even the earlier books have dark bits like when Harry slays a giant deadly serpent which nearly killed a few students.

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That the plot and tone are very different (although a (new) wizarding war wasn't in the Harry Potter plot until the end of the fourth book) doesn't mean there aren't strong similarities in characters, setting and even style.

The Potter characters' names may not be witchy but several are descriptive and some mythological.

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Here we go, you lot are in denial...you think your beloved JK just magically pulled Harry from thin air....the evidence is before you, this film was the basis for her "original" works.

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I agree! I think there were several sources that "inspired" JK Rowling.

1. Lord of the Rings seems to be burned into her psyche and the business about a Dark Lord who is defeated yet returns until some jewelry of his is destroyed. That's totally obvious, isn't it?

2. The Secret of Platform 13 by Eva Ibbotson very well may have inspired the first few chapters concerning those miserable Dursley people. A baby is abducted from a pram by a wealthy childless woman. She gives birth to her own child shortly afterwards and the abducted child winds up living in a cupboard and being a servant to the awful family and their spoiled rotten real son. Then a rescue party arrives from a magic island which is shrouded in mist and they attempt to take back the abducted child who is actually a prince in the magic land. The awful woman resists by moving into an expensive suite at a deluxe London hotel. There was confusion concerning which child is the abducted princeling. Anyhow, there is a magic passageway to the magic island on the abandonded platform 13 of Kings Cross station. More than a few plot point similarities!

3. Anthony Horowitz wrote two short novels, Groosham Grange and a sequel Return to Groosham Grange in which a child is magic but doesn't know it until he receives (parents receive) an admission letter from a boarding school. The kid, David Elliot, meets two other kids with the same circumstances on a train to the school. They form a pact to resist the school without ever knowing any more. They are ferried to an island off the coast where the school is located. The teachers are odd. One appears to be a werewolf since he gets kind of nasty when the moon is near full. He is Mr. Le Loup. David investigates things by sneaking around at night. In the sequel, there is a wizard obstacle race. There is a broomstick ride (not a sport though.. David persues an unknown villain..) The plot points are there. Mostly I point at the business about some kids are secretly magical and they need training at this magic school.

4. And Jill Murphy's The Worst Witch of course.

I could mention L. Frank Baum's The Wonderful Wizard of Oz where Dorothy Gale receives a protective kiss (and a mark on her forehead) from the good witch of the north when she arrives. That story has the "who would have guessed?" defeat of a powerful witch/wizard. And I could mention the Scooby-Doo cartoons where a bunch of "meddling kids" unmask the villains every episode. Yes, Professor Quirrell is a "masked" villain too!

My point is that JK Rowling is not so terribly original.

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I should add the Chrestomanci series of books by Diana Wynne Jones, especially Witch Week. Her stories usually involves a child who discovers his magic powers at the age of eleven or so. Chrestomanci is an employee of the British government at the minister level and his job is to maintain law and order in a world where magic is a fact of life. Otherwise the magic people would enslave the non-magic people. Chrestomanci is thus a job title and the current Chrestomanci lives in a splendid castle.

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