This part of the movie always disturbed me the most. When Ace starts to attack Chris with the knife but is started by the gunshot, Eyeball did not do anything to stop him. As big of a jerk as Ace is, I always pointed the finger at Eyeball as well because he was also a jerk and let Ace bully his brother and his brother's friends.
shareAce was the "leader". Eyeball would feel crappy about letting Ace stab his brother, but he'd let it happen anyway because peer pressure allows for so much chickensh^t things to happen.
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Sorry, but if I were Eyeball, I would've AT LEAST try to stop Ace from killing my own flesh and blood. Nothing is worth having your sibling dead especially if your "friend" tries to kill him/her.
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shareI'd still say you're gutless if you don't save your brother, with or without cobra tattoo.
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let me correct myself, it was craved with a knife. does that even count as a tattoo if no ink was used? give him some credit, his friend was also a phychopath that woulda killed him.
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He was scared! watch the scene again and you can clearly see he wants to get involved but it's happening so quickly and he's petrified of Ace. Anyway I don't think Ace was going to kill Chris, probably just carve up his face.
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Eyeball also looked a bit uncomfortable at the beginning when Ace had Chris down and was holding a cigarette next to his face. He didn't do anything to stop it then either, but you could see the discomfort.
shareHe didn't look uncomfortable at all during that scene at the beginning. It cuts to him while Ace has Chris on the ground and he's smiling.
share"..peer pressure allows for so much chickensh^t things to happen."
That's not what that word means. Basically it refers to 'coward'. Does peer pressure allow so much 'coward things to happen'?
Also, shouldn't it be 'so many', as it's a quantifiable thing?
If you change 'much' to 'many' and change the 'chickenshít' to 'shítty', or something more civil, like 'bad' or 'unfortunate', you are correct.
I'm gonna say no.
Eyeball eventually would've stepped if the situation had escalated to such a point
This was an interesting scene because Ace was going to slit Chris' throat with his switchblade. The thing is, a switchblade has a pointed tip for stabbing, not a sharp edge for slicing, cutting, chopping, dicing, etc.
yeah...
Ace broke his own brothers arm in the book. Can't expect much from a guy like that.
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Eyeball broke his own brothers arm and not Ace.
shareKeep in mind. These are Stephen King bullies. they are a special kind of sociopathic. More sadistic than the average movie bully or even real life bullies. they stab little brothers in the nuts, beat girls with baseball bats, dump pigs blood on prom queens, destroy a nerds car because it's nice, murder the neighborhood gay kid, with in Stephen King stories is standard bullying.
shareIt's weird, I never noticed that but you're right. Stephen King does tend to create these hyperbolic villains who kind of view killing and permanently maiming people as a casual Saturday evening activity.
shareI wouldn't even call these kids bullies, just psychopaths.
shareI think the relationship between chris and eyeball didn't really exist eyeball treated chris as an enemy to keep his status alongside ace,chris i think tried to remain indifferent towards his family but i think chris had too much feelings of affection and sympathy towards people and therefore i believe he loved his brother and even though he wasn't a good role model like younger siblings oftenly do they try to seek awareness off there older siblings.If your question is would eyeball let ace kill chris if the senario was real i think because eyeball did say "come on ace." he would probably intervene but none the less ace may have still killed chris with his friends holding eyeball back probably this is speaking so without gordie with the gun.I understand how you would be disturbed i would be too but i guess i didn't really think much of it,thanks for highlighting the point.
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I don't think Eyeball gave a s**t about family.
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Didn't Eyeball say something to Ace? I haven't seen the movie in a while but I'd swear that when Ace started toward Chris with the knife, Eyeball said something like "Ace, come on, man", like he was trying to reason with him. Or am I totally off? I need to watch it again, I guess.
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Didn't Eyeball say something to Ace? I haven't seen the movie in a while but I'd swear that when Ace started toward Chris with the knife, Eyeball said something like "Ace, come on, man", like he was trying to reason with him. Or am I totally off?
Eyeball indeed would've let it happen. Infact when Eyeball says "Ace, come on, man" it was King's way of showing that he didn't want Ace to kill Chris, but he was too much of a coward to do anything...other then the simple plea...to stop him.
shareI think it was also a way of showing how off the path Ace actually is in contrast with the rest of the gang. They are all these sort of loud-mouthed bully types but in this moment and the one where Ace plays chicken with the car, we see that he really is not acting this way for show.
I think Eyeball was playing along until that point because he expected his brother to back down and then Ace pull back but at that moment, he realized neither one of them was going to stop and there was nothing he could do about it.
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I think it was also a way of showing how off the path Ace actually is in contrast with the rest of the gang. They are all these sort of loud-mouthed bully types but in this moment and the one where Ace plays chicken with the car, we see that he really is not acting this way for show.
I think Eyeball was playing along until that point because he expected his brother to back down and then Ace pull back but at that moment, he realized neither one of them was going to stop and there was nothing he could do about it.
I like the theory as well, which makes sense for Gordie to only threaten Ace's life by saying "no Ace, just you".
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