People are asking what the hell happend at the end and what it ment, well i can tell u
the ending ment that
sid died while he was with those kids and Nancy was in the taxi (she already dead) and i think he went off to die with her
like the end of grease when they fly away, thats saying there going away together.
You're kinda on the right lines
Its kind of a spin on the classic meeting of your loved ones in the afterlife.
The angel version of Nancy comes to collect Sid's soul.
Alex Cox was intimating that they were the Romeo & Juliet of the punk junkie scene & gave the movie a romantic ending.
Of course, we all know the reality was much different, but whats so wrong with a lil' romanticicm ?
I liked the ending personally. The music was perfect. It's called "Taxi To Heaven" by Pray For Rain. A beautiful piece of music.
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No! Sid was not dead! How could he have died while dancing with those kids?.. he died at his mom's house due to heroine overdose.
The ending just meant that he was all by himself now, and nancy's soul coming to take him meant that he was just going with her. Maybe it was a hallucination or he just wanted to think in that way. Probably he just missed her alot, thats why they showed he sat in the cab thinking nancy was with him.
Whatever the ending meant, he was not dead at that time!
hitchhiker, losing your soul and dying are two completely different things.
shareThe music was hauntingly beautiful. I think it was a metophor; Sid's taxi ride with Nancy to death, that he followed her soon afterwards and that they'd be together to infinity. This scene sends me almost to tears, I think it's very beautiful. Maybe not realistic, but beautiful.
And the song, "Do a little dance, make a little love," might express the way that Punk was now over, that a new genre of music was happening.
That's just my thought anyway, lol.
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xmiserybusinessx - you are right on point.
I am glad to know that I am not the only one who is brought to tears at this ending.
You know how that pizza place is in the middle of nowhere - I like to think of that as Sid's purgatory waiting room.
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[You know how that pizza place is in the middle of nowhere - I like to think of that as Sid's purgatory waiting room]
^I never thought of it like that. I think that is why the ending is so effective; you can read it in so many different ways.
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^I never thought of it like that. I think that is why the ending is so effective; you can read it in so many different ways.
So very true. I mean some of the posters up here just go way outer limits with their interpretations. I mean they take everything at face value and are very serious as to why it can't be this way or whatever. Last time I checked everyone was born with an opinion and the right to exercise it - but don't condemn others because they do not agree with you. Am I right?
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Your idea makes a lot of sense, Pinky2000. I thought Sid might've died just before he was released from jail. The shot just before the police officer lectures him was Sid screaming and vomiting in the cell from withdrawal symptoms. Then when he's released, he seems absolutely fine. Also, he didn't seem upset about Nancy's death, going so far as to dance with the kids. The kids knowing his name also seems a bit strange, like they were playful angels, dancing to disco.
And then finally Sid is picked up in a yellow taxi, with Nancy waiting for him. Maybe a reference to "Swing Low, Sweet Chariot".
I liked the film, but Nancy was such a freaking annoying character. Squealing like a damn pig for most of the film.
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OH! I almost forgot to say that just because a film is based on a person's life (or group of people), doesn't mean the director can't take some artistic license. Regardless of where and how Sid really died, the various interpretations that Sid died in the film are still valid.
I wouldn't watch a biopic for factual information anyway.
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Well said tank921 (both commentary) I liked what you said about him being in the police station going through that withdrawal (personal hell) dies and comes out feeling fine and looking fresh. Dancing children (cherubs) good reference - disco music (happy music, not dark or political as Punk)
Yeah I know Nancy was a bit over the top (most geniuses are - LOL) but I have read up a lot on Ms. Spungen including the book her mum wrote. Many people around at the time, have eluded to the fact that she was very obnoxious. I think Chloe Webb did an excellent job portraying Nancy. If she annoyed you, a job well done. That is someone really getting into character.
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Obviously it was done symbolically for an artistic. Personally I thought it was great and cosidering it was the story of two f'd up people, they actually made it kind of touching. Plus the music they used (also great in the kissing scene earlier in the film) was absolutely perfect.
shareI like Pinky's notion of purgatory.
The reason the ending is so abstract is quite simple; Alex Cox is an artfag! All his films have sequences like this.
It's also chronologically inaccurate; I believe the kids was a nod to the kids Sid was photographed playing with at the 77 gig in Huddersfield when nancy was very much still alive
http://www.punk77.co.uk/graphics/sid/huddersfield.jpg
Something all you romantics are ignoring is the fact that he actually died in his new girlfriend's bed (Michelle Robison).
to romanticize the ending is one thing, since the focus of the movie was Sid and Nancy together, not the factual events. I get that and love the movie actually, but the person who tried to romanticize his mom as "setting him free" disgusts me. She was a fellow junkie who met her son at his release from jail with a pocket full of heroin. She freakin killed her own son. Period.
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"And the song, "Do a little dance, make a little love," might express the way that Punk was now over, that a new genre of music was happening"
I doubt it was that deep of a meaning there. "Get Down Tonight" came out in 1975. Disco had been going strong, which was one of the reactions that the so called Punk movement was reacting against, if you want to call it that.
Would it not have been so much better though if the film ended how it started, with the police trying to get information out of Vicious?
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Okay, i love movies with a passion. my boyfreind only likes them if they won oscars or something. He doesn't look into movies for actual meaning. and i made him watch sid and nancy and he hated it. "did all this really happen? are those the real sex pistols? are they rich? WHY is he in a banana hammock? whats with the taxi, did that chick not die or something?" haha, it's nice to know i can discuss this stuff with him -sarcasm- xD
shareI assumed everything after he left the police cell was a hallucination, due to the fact that the pizza parlour didn't have a front
shareFor people who are unfamiliar with the story of Sid & Nancy and who watch the movie nonetheless, it's the director's way of showing where he was headed, without making the film pointlessly drag on by showing Sid's death as well. Also to show that there was still some love there, despite what people may say about their relationship.
share<<For people who are unfamiliar with the story of Sid & Nancy and who watch the movie nonetheless, it's the director's way of showing where he was headed, without making the film pointlessly drag on by showing Sid's death as well. Also to show that there was still some love there, despite what people may say about their relationship.>>
Of course there was love there. Toni Morrison once wrote that "love is never any better than the lover." So they both loved like addicts, like mentally ill people, but they loved. Sid only survived her by a few months.
If you read the book her mother wrote, it's clear Sid loved her and she loved him. Even if you don't read the book, it's clear that they loved one another.
alex cox said in a interview on the Dvd said he backed out on the truthful ending cause he loved Sid and nancy too much plus he said they would have never got the film made with the truthful ending.
shareI think it's interesting what John Lydon himself said about the movie ending:
"To me this movie is the lowest form of life. I honestly believe that it celebrates heroin addiction. It definitely glorifies it at the end when that stupid taxi drives off into the sky. That's such nonsense."
I don't agree 100% about it glorifying heroin use, and Lydon was always VEHEMENTLY anti-drug, particularly heroin...but I do agree that the fruity fairy-tale ending was a bit cheesy. Instead of portraying what really happened, and the bleak & utter sadness of it, they make it look like Sid is taken away to heaven.
On the other hand, maybe that's what it was meant to convey - like at that point, Sid had mentally "checked out," and while his living body was still on this earth from some time after that point, his heart & soul were "gone," and he was basically as good as dead anyhow. His mom seemed to realize that, and it's as if she just "set him free." I guess maybe the film makers didn't want to portray Sid's mom in a bad way, so they just tip-toed around it and gave the movie a fruity ending falling short of having to shine a light on the mom.
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"I do agree that the fruity fairy-tale ending was a bit cheesy."
What would you have rather had then? Another depressing ending where they're both just dead and we fade to black? Since when is it wrong for a director to use some artful storytelling in his film? What is he good for then?
I've always loved the ending, especially seeing both of them as (probably) who they would have been if not for drug abuse and mental problems. Sid and Nancy looked like they were free from everything and the happiest they ever were. I have this strange habit of glomming onto celebrities it seems I can identify with and caring about what happened to them, and lamenting the lives they could have had if they'd just stuck around. I feel that way toward Sid and Nancy. My God, they were just 20 and 21 respectively.
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" think he was hallucinating that it was Nancy and it was actually someone else in the taxi because one of the boys tells Sid that he doesn't even know her (after he starts kissing her)."
The kid says something like "You don't know it, but you know it" after they are all praising him for kissing Nancy.
Over all I think it's just representing that Sid died and was finally with Nancy.