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The last few minutes are..


I think the final quarter or so (including the dream-dance) were among the best I have seen in a movie. It is shattering to see the talented Sid and Nancy self-destruct with Nancy finally dying. Sid is too overwhelmed with grief and drugs to even react properly to her death. I have a feeling he isn't yet prepared to believe she has gone forever. And then, a taxi comes with Nancy in a wedding dress.. I almost howled watching the taxi scene; Sid believes her to be alive and the two meet, but not in this world. Chloe Webb is pure sublime in that scene; she is brimming with emotion and love and the music is too good to be real. The ending is a poignant tribute to the two lost souls. RIP S&N...

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You were not paying attention if you think Sid was talented !

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You were not paying attention if you think Sid was talented !




Sid was not talented! You mean to say that the man who was the quasi-pioneer of punk rock n roll scene, whose work gave way to modern day punk idols like Green Day, for example, and an evergreen cultural iconoclast was not talented? Boy! you need to get over yourself.

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Lol. If anyone pioneered Punk it was Richard Hell and the Ramones. Rotten wrote the words and sang them, gave the Sex Pistols their image. Jones/ cook and Matlock wrote the music. What did Sid do exactly ?

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God, I don't believe I'm having this discussion..

What did Sid do exactly ?

Tell this to the filmmakers who chose to make Sid's biopic who "didn't do anything" instead of Rotten or Matlock's.

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I have the same feeling.

It was about the "love Story" with Nancy and heroin, not about his musical talent !

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If he were still alive today Sid would have ended up on 'Im a celebrity get me out of here' with all the other has-beens and non-celebrities.

He was one of the pioneers of famous for being famous. No real musical talent except playing the bass guitar not particularly well. His image was well marketed as a walking disaster and a symbol for punk.

Was it a millionaire who said "Imagine no possessions"?

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The Stooges

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Sid didn't even know how to play the bass guitar. The Sex Pistols were created to advertise Malcolm Maclaren's clothing store. Not very punk really. They had some good tunes but for the most part I would not call Sid talented.

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In fairness to Sid, he was encouraged by Malcolm McLaren (band manager) not to improve as a musician. Sid improved his play over the course of his time in the band, but their incompotent manager decided the future lied in making Sid Vicious famous for being a professional trainwreck instead of a rock musician.

You gotta keep in mind the London punk scene back then was different from the one in America during the 70s. US punk bands still prioritized musical ability & live show performance first, while in England it was more of a political movement of disaffected youth rising up in anger to be as harsh, unrehearsed, and ugly as possible. British punk was always about something else entirely in the 70s. It was viewed as a means to an end, not as a new musical genre to be expanded & improved upon as a new artform itself, the way it was treated in the US.

The last thing I'll say on it was that according to the people on the NYC punk scene in 1978 when Sid was performing as a solo act....... he was actually pretty good. He wasn't panned & rejected the way the movie portrayed him. He had a couple shows where he got a little too high or drunk beforehand, but he realized it was a liability so he never did it again and was always there on time prepared to play. There was never a time where someone had to go rouse him from his nods to turn up for a gig he'd already forgotten about. Or once he got there, he was already so wasted he couldn't even stand up straight or speak plainly. That never happened. Not because he was serious about his career necessarily, but because he needed the money to fund his drug addiction, and he knew he wouldn't get paid if he was as horrible as the movie presented him.

According to the people who worked as booking agents on the NYC punk scene at the time, they never stopped booking Sid. They stopped booking Nancy. Nancy was poison to these shows. Sid would draw huge crowds but Nancy would repel them over the course of the night with her bullshit.

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For me the most poignant scene was at the end when Sid (who is soon to be doomed) is walking alone with the twin towers in the background. Of course the connection between the two dead icons was not intentional at the time which makes it kind of spooky.

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