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Ahhh....the A, B C's of alchholism


I was afraid it would become an infomercial for AA (which is a cult) and there was a line....something about "you'll end up in prison, dead or you'll find AA"....as if AA is the answer. Cancer is a disease....drinking too much isn't. Just stop it..or at least cut down. I did it all by myself many months ago after I realized it was endagering my health. And besides, I was simply sick of it. It IS about will power and personal strength. Don't buy the AA cultish bull about "giving your whole will over to the program" (didn't Jim Jones say something like that?) It was a shame to see such a great actor as Mr. Sheen overacting in this made for TV tripe. But everyone has to get paid, I suppose. Addiction is not a disease....its just a bad habit, so stop it!

"I don't care if he's been rogering the Duke of York with a prize winning leek!

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This is coming from someone who drank alcohol too much, you weren't an alcoholic.
You know nothing about alcoholism.
Addiction is not a disease, it's just a bad habit? An addiction and a bad habit are two separate thing buddy.

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*beep* AA. Nothing but weak minded individuals who read from a book that is just as bad as the bible. I went to several meetings and they want you to trade your addiction of alcohol to caffeine and coffee. Bunch of tools. And now the @sshole who wrote the AA book is a millionaire because every group recommends you buy one. Addiction is for the weak. Stop drinking and smoking if you think you have a problem. I quit both and without too much struggle. Step one is to stop buying what ails you.

" The rug really tied the room together did it not? "

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You are so missinformed its scary. First of all I agree with you that most individuals within AA are weak and cannot cope with their problem without going to a meeting once a day. Now, where your totally wrong is that there was no single person who contributed to the big book and no the founders of aa, dr.bob and bill wilson did not die rich... at all. Also there is nothing in aa that suggests you find a substitute for your addiction, you just assumed that because that is the natural thing for an addict/alcoholic to do when they first quit. Nextly, AA is based on the principles of the Oxford Group, a colaboration of wealthy christian scholars who felt an emptyness in their lives and worked on a solution to find fullfillment outside of materialism. These principles are not necessarily christian, rather are universial of all forms of spirituality and that is that you must believe that there is a power greater than yourself that has the capacity to guide you to your potential and that you simply cannot control everything in life you need to be guided, etc. I could go on but im bored. Don't be so judgemental of AA, it actually has saved a lot of individuals that are commited to the 12 steps/principles, even though most *beep* that go to AA are weak minded fools that cannot comprehend the actual meaning of AA that the founders intended, rather they cultishly adhere to the principles they want to adhere to and cannot cope with their addiction unless they go to meetings ever/every other day.

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Missinformed? I wish. They offer coffee at AA which is another addictive drink. It's a substitution of an addictive substance, albeit, a less dangerous one. It isn't written in the fvcking book to trade vices and I never said that it was. One of their steps is to seek guidance through prayer and to worship God or a higher power without regard to what ones religious beliefs might be. No sh!t it was written by Christians. Predominantly, one single Christian. Whether the person actually ended up wealthy I can't say for certain. If he did not, he apparently wasn't a very smart businessman. In the U.S. it has recently become illegal for a judge or probation/parole officer to order someone to go to such meetings because they are religious even though they aren't deemed religious. Unfortunately, before this was decided I was forced to attend several meetings. I get a good laugh when I think about the wealthy Christians scholars who felt the need to start up another group and write another book because they felt an emptiness in their lives. Perhaps it was God's will for them to be pathetic.


" The rug really tied the room together, did it not? "

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