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STOP glamourizing the abuse/degradation of women!


It's movies like this, along with the porn industry, that contribute to the degradation, exploitation, humiliation, and even abuse of women. I have been treated like this by guys, and allowed myself to be treated like this, bc society, namely, the media---taught me this was "hot, exciting, erotic", and now I can honestly say that there is NOTHING exciting about being this treated this way by men. I recently left a fwb relationship where the guy was everything i conjured in sexual fantasies---tats, liquid honey brown eyes, part native-american, prison sentence behind him, muscular body, even kinda resembled young Mickey Rourke---and he did a lot of the things this character did. And I honestly blame movies like this for telling ME that this is 'good erotic sex" and making me subconsciously go for men like this thinking it's hot, erotic, exciting. The way the movie ended is the only humane aspect of this movie---showing how drained, used, and empty she felt at the end, bc that's EXACTLY how it feels to be treated that way by men.

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Why do u think the movie is called nine and a half weeks? Just because of what u write....a relationship like this cannot last much longer because it is draining on all levels.
But hey, no need to blame the movies. Come on!

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I don't think the film itself is glamourising the abuse of women. After all, she does leave him in the end. It's probably more the way its marketed, as an "erotic romance" film. Sure, there was a period where Elizabeth may have been happy, but she realises soon enough it's not a marriage of equals. The film also offers some insight into the psychology of John and why he feels the need to 'control' his lover. It's not glamorous, it's actually a dark drama about dominance, psychological abuse and human relationships. However, Hollywood knows that sex and romance sell more tickets, so they went with that. You can blame them for glamourising a film that's really a dark and gritty human drama that has surprising depth but instead is passed off as silly soft core porn.

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That's right, it's the movie's fault you're a dumbass.

Who says violence is not the answer?

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1) You are about 28 yrs late.
2) If you think the movie "glamourized" anything other than food sex, you have severe mental issues to begin with.
3) Take responsibility for your choices. Seek help if necessary.

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there are movies about war heroes, and we all know there are no winners in wars. a movie is a form of art and if this one made you feel anything, the director did a great job, as well as the people involved.

my father was an alcoholic. there are millions of movies that glorify drinking, so what? there are comedies where the main characters are always drunk. it is not real, it cannot affect you unless you are under 8 or 9...

if you blame the movies for something that happened to you, I suggest to see a therapist. Only you are in control over your life. Unless you were raped or killed. But if you were in a relationship like this, sorry, but you have problems. I am not trying to sound mean, cos I go to the therapist once a month, because of my father, I need to vent.

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?? In the end, I think it shows the empowerment of women. The ability and good sense to walk away from a demeaning relationship. Elizabeth had the will and courage to say, "enough is enough". If that is not a positive for Elizabeth, then I don't know. I also felt that John, although a serial seducer, may have finally let something go that he may regret. Maybe John is so broken that he can't fix himself. I did get the feeling that although he had done similar things many times before, that this time, he may have had some regrets.

There is no doubt that there were aspects of the relationship she found enticing, thrilling. However, John didn't stop pushing the boundaries and ended up pushing her away. Did he love her? Maybe? They certainly had some kind of chemistry on scene. Did she love him? Maybe.... but based on the trajectory of the relationship, she left.

In the end, maybe this is your story... For whatever reasons you are attracted to guys like this... but you can make the connection... Movies are nothing more than story telling and all the more powerful when we can relate...

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Please don't troll. Or if you're not, then good luck. Google what "Moral Agency" means. Or "Agency" in general (i.e., women have it, they are not dumb victims unless they want to be).
I've had women do the same to me, in effect. Just because they don't have a penis, I don't bend over and submit physically, does NOT mean that they don't exercise power over a man - and with power can come abuse, depending on the integrity and ethical nature of the person wielding said power.

Why do you like ex-cons, out of all the good-sounding characteristics that you mention? How can having gone to jail be a bonus to a woman? Just means he's more likely (statistically speaking) to go again, and less likely to look after any kids you might have .

I always said it's not about giving someone what they want, or about an individual having the power to get what they want - no. It's about an individual having the power to want what's good for them. So many media influences and other influences shape and manipulate what we think we want.
The truth is that one is a hypocrite to single-out merely ONE source of manipulation instead of rejecting ALL sources, equally. Yet, if you believe certain factions within the feminist movement, it's all the honest male's fault.

Try to remember to be decent to the honest guys who will treat you well (some of us have been through too much sh*t to mess with a good thing we have going, we're not spoilt children). Whilst identifying WITHOUT prejudice, who the real a**holes are. It takes some skill, perhaps, but us men have to have these skills with women, too.

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Wah!! Wah!! I lost interest in my meathead boyfriends who treated me lousy so now I am going to cry about porn..Wah!!

#1 - There is a major reason that overall "good guys" do lousy in their love life when younger.. It is called FEMALES.. Most girls when younger want the bad boy because it is exciting.. Once they lose interest in that / realize its not as great as it seems - then they move toward decent, stable guys

So, stop whining about how evil a movie or a porn is...

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