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Would Kreese

posted 6 years ago by spiderduck1997 (68)
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have been charged with Attempted Murder over the parking lot incident with Johnny in real life?

He wasn't trying to kill him. Prosecutor could never win that case.

Assault and battery for sure though.

[–] spiderduck1997 (68) 6 years ago

I disagree. Kreese choked Johnny. Johnny could have died if not for Miyagi's intervention. In Episode 9 of Cobra Kai, Johnny described the incident as Kreese trying to kill him, so I would argue that Kreese was guilty of 2nd Degree Attempted Murder.

[–] strntz (10779) 6 years ago

Johnny could have died if not for Miyagi's intervention.

The evidence doesn't support that contention.

[–] spiderduck1997 (68) 6 years ago

I'm pretty sure that choking can kill someone.

[–] strntz (10779) 6 years ago

I'm pretty sure that choking can kill someone.

So can speeding or running a red light. I think everyone should be charged with attempted murder rather than getting a traffic ticket.

[–] AP (5256) 6 years ago

No, but he could be charged with assaulting a minor.

[–] strntz (10779) 6 years ago

Exactly. Attempted murder is a *very* difficult charge to prove, probably more difficult than manslaughter and murder (when in fact a dead body exists). There was a woman who hired a hitman to kill her husband get off an attempted murder charge. If that's not intent, what is?

[–] wearsalan (5554) 6 years ago

Kreese suffered the ultimate punishment......he lost all his students.
Personally I think he could have played the ptsd card in this day and age. Back then it probably wasn't worthy of police attention.

[–] strntz (10779) 6 years ago

Almost certainly. Not only did he put Johnny in a choke hold, he punch/slapped Johnny's friends when they tried to get Kreese to let Johnny go. Hard to imagine any of the others staying with him.

[–] PaladinNJ (20308) 6 years ago

Attempted Murder - No.
Assault and Battery and Endangering the Welfare of a Minor - definitely