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Academy Award - Best Foreign film

posted 19 years ago by josephjohnston
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Can any of you guys tell why this film wasn't even nominated for an oscar? I am baffled and can find no logical explanation. I know that there is tension between the US and the French because of continued government aid by the latter to the movie industry.

I reject the 8* rating by imdb - I think it is worth more. I also believe that Emmanuel Beart looks as stunning as any actress in the history of the movies which renders the second movie highly watchable.

I also reject the claim that these typically French. I have never sensed that. Pagnol is unusually balanced in his treatment of christianity and the church in particular. The clash between church and state is a little running theme within the second film. Indeed, christian morality in respect of our behaviour dominates the entire proceedings.

[–] alexlehmann4 19 years ago

It wasn't nominated for Best Foreign film?!

hm... the reason might be that the film is very dark and sad, describing how horrible humans can be. The acadamy doesn't really like this kind of story telling.

But who cares, its a great film anyway.
It isn't even in top 250, which is just mad. Deserves at least best 20 in my opinion.

[–] dioro 19 years ago

I think to be nominated, some French type Academy has to nominate one film, and only ONE film. Perhaps it was because this film was released in 2 parts, just a few months apart, that they had a little bit of a trouble nominating Jean de Florette and not Manon des Sources or vice versa.

This film came out in the autumn of 1986. The film nominated by the French for that year was Betty Blue (37º2 Le Matin). While I would say that Betty Blue is definitely one of the best french films in that time period, Jean de Florette & Manon des Sources are a cut above Betty Blue.

So I am guessing that it is because it was split into two films. Too bad they didn't wait until the following year to release Manon des Sources. They might have picked up 2 oscars.

Also, I checked and Jean de Florette and/or Manon didn't even win a César (french Oscar) for best film. Daniel Auteuil got best actor for Ugolin in the first part.

[–] josephjohnston 19 years ago

Dioro

thanks for the research - wow didn't even win the French award! Yet more proof of the the "Dictatorship of Relativism" in our European culture. It adds up, like Victor Hugo, Pagnol was balanced in his treatment of Christianity and the Illuminati of 18th century French philosophy. It's their problem not America's. Oscar - all is forgiven!

Joseph

[–] prudhocj 13 years ago

dioro wrote - "I think to be nominated, some French type Academy has to nominate one film, and only ONE film."

That is correct but the reason this movie wasn't nominated by the French for an Oscar is because it was originally made for TV and was not initially a theatrical release.

"Also, I checked and Jean de Florette and/or Manon didn't even win a César (french Oscar) for best film. Daniel Auteuil got best actor for Ugolin in the first part."

It was nominated in several major categories - best film, director, cinematography, music, etc. It just didn't win except for Daniel Auteiul as best actor.

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[–] cengelm 18 years ago

It was nominated for the Golden Globe and won BAFTA Best Film. The much higher rated AMELIE didn't get any Oscar, either, but was at least nominated. With awards you never know.

[–] cengelm 18 years ago

I also believe that Emmanuelle Beart looks as stunning as any actress in the history of the movies which renders the second movie highly watchable.

That doesn't help to get awards, usually. And she wasn't in this movie.

I reject the 8* rating by imdb

There is a lot of manipulating going on and JAEN DE FLORETTE is severly affected. It has nearly 5% highly weighted one-votes. Other films have 2% or less. Without that it would be in the Top 250.

[–] blue-3 14 years ago

josephjohnston on Fri Mar 11 2005 23:35:29 wrote:

.... I also believe that Emmanuel Beart looks as stunning as any actress in the history of the movies which renders the second movie highly watchable.

She was the best looking but compared to the quality of the acting of the others, she was quite ordinary.