Animal cruelty


Why baboons?

Why not something like insects, fish, or something tiny? Why not cockroaches?

But no, it has to be a BABOON.. how many Baboons did this guy murder, and why is everyone OK with that?

What a world we live in, when animal murder doesn't even make anyone raise an eyebrow in a movie plot (or real life). After all, people base their whole diets around bloody murders and incredibly suffering and pain of the innocent, hurting so terribly when they are murdered for their 'steaks'.. and sometimes even after, because the murder-attempt is very often botched.

Imagine being a cow, hurting terribly from the shot in the head, and then being hang from one of your feet upside down, while some heartless sadist unceremoniously cuts your belly open, and scrapes your insides out - and nothing you do, can make him or the pain stop, until you finally mercifully .. DIE.

That's what happens EVERY DAY, because people eat carcasses and then wonder why they have blood and vein diseases and cholesterol problems.

If someone kicks a poodle, the masses are outraged. If someone bloodily and systematically murders and tortures billions of cows, pigs, turkeys, and who knows what else, no one bats an eyelid.

Why is murder so accepted in this world anyway? There are systematically brainwashed individuals called 'soldiers', that murder even human beings (and murder is ALWAYS unlawful, no matter what you are wearing or what excuse you have been indoctrinated to state for it, when asked - something about a 'country' usually, though countries are really corporations now).

But when such a murderer shoots a video, where he throws a puppy down a cliff, there's a huge outrage.

At the same time, millions of men have been murdered in history, and it's considered 'normal'. No outrage, no sympathy.

And even more cows, pigs, turkeys, chickens, and yes, even cats and dogs have been murdered during the history.

You truly see the ethical level of 'civilization' from how it treats its animals. But even pets are treated wrong - they are treated as little human beings, instead of animals that they are. So they develop symptoms from not being able to express their true selves or have their psychological needs met.

(Just watch Dog Whisperer)

In the light of all this - why baboons? Why not goldfish? Why not flowers or other living plants?

Though the stupid bit about this movie is that somehow you can just disintegrate living beings, and reintegrate them - BY A COMPUTER! Haha!

Life is not 'computerizable', and life does not exist on the physical side - it exists on higher planes, but APPEARS to exist on the physical plane because it's so tightly connected to it temporarily. That's what chakras do, they are like bolts that hold the soul in the physical body.

So, a computer that doesn't take chakras, meridians, acu-points, the etheric body, the astral body, the causal body, the mental body, the soul, and all the ways everything is connected (triple-warmer, for example, is purely etheric, very important organ, that the chinese know about, but west doesn't even believe exists - how is that kind of 1980s computer going to teleport that? It's essential for the functioning and well-being of any human in a physical body). If it only teleported the physical, the body would arrive dead, as there's no longer anything to connect it to the soul, and one of the organs would be missing. Though, in essence, all organs would be missing, because the physical side of organs is only the least important part of them (though still important) - the ACTUAL organs reside on higher planes.

This is factual knowledge in chinese medicine science. But the west doesn't understand anything beyond purely physical, so quantum theory confuses it and scares the shít out of it. If only the west would realize things like 'creator', 'spirit' and 'higher planes', it wouldn't have problems explaining the findings in quantum mechanics.

But now I am rambling beyond the scope of my original intention, so I am stopping here.

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Why not something like insects, fish, or something tiny? Why not cockroaches?


It had to be something biologically complex and physiologically similar to a human.

To me taking an animal and locking it up in your house or apartment all day and feeding it processed foods is more cruel than animal testing, and without the benefits to mankind.

I'm not for testing make-up or any other superficial garbage on animals, but if it's a medicine, vaccine or medical procedure that could potentially improve or save millions of lives, hey.

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Animal testing is immoral on all levels. The animals are being tortured to help us to survive longer.
We live on an overpopulated planet, there are over 200 000 people being born everyday. There are alot of poor people do testings on instead, just give them money.

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Animal testing is immoral on all levels.


Not on scientific levels.

Can't stop the signal.

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We don’t even need to test on animals anymore, considering we can run computer programs that do the job just fine. Animal testing is immoral.

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And here, I was sure somewhere in this topic, someone must certainly have considered the feelings of the fly.

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"And here, I was sure somewhere in this topic, someone must certainly have considered the feelings of the fly."

Lol, that's what I thought, too.

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Well, it was sort of a red herring, the title.

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okay but this was just a movie... no animals were hurt not sure why your so upset.

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There's an obvious reason he used baboons... he wanted the telepods to be able to perfectly teleport humans and baboons are one of the closest animals to humans in terms of their biology. When the telepod turned the baboon inside out, it gave him the clearest understanding of what it would do to a human being. Besides, the animals for testing were provided to him by Bartok so he could choose which animals he wanted to use.

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Why baboons?

Why not something like insects, fish, or something tiny? Why not cockroaches?

But no, it has to be a BABOON.. how many Baboons did this guy murder, and why is everyone OK with that?


I stopped reading after that. Skimmed half but my eyes got tired of rolling.

As others have said, it's because primates are most similar to humans for testing.

On a meta level, what kind of a horror movie would it be if only cockroaches were turned inside out?

And just out of curiosity, if baboons make you crap your pants, what does human violence on film do? Perhaps let's stay away from the horror/sci-fi/any genre that's not Disney altogether?

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Why separate insects and fish?

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The OP way over-reacted, but I was wondering the same thing. No one starts with baboons. You always start with something small. And if those tests go well, then you move up to something larger. I guess the answer here was the focus was on horror, not realism.

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You do realise that no baboons were actually harmed during the making of this film, don't you?

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