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this is tsui harks greatest film!


a perfect blend of action, comedy and suspense, its like the indiana jones of hongkong movies! who agrees with me?

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i agree with you.

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Some of you guys should check out many more films by him. In fact, since then he's made dozens of much greater films: The Lovers, A Better Tomorrow III, Seven Swords, Once Upon A Time In China, Chinese Feast, Legend Of Zu, The Blade, Time & Tide, Green Snake. If i would have to choose one, then Seven Swords is his greatest effort to date. Pure idealism, philosophy and genre redefinition at its finest. Anyways, Peking Opera Blues will always be known as his the most accessible and enjoyable to the public but also not necessarily his greatest film either. He's a truly genious director but not just for this film.

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"...he's made dozens of much greater films...Once Upon A Time in China"

I certainly disagree with you there.

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Legend Of Zu beats this little film in the first second. But let's face it, in the 80's TsuiHark was making just movies that would fit to the mainstream, today he doesn't even make films, he's making masterpieces. It's no secret that he's made a lot of progress since then. As it was stated in one British magazine: "His genius stretched to the boundless unparalleled level. These days he doesn't conform or compromise his vision, he's literally forcing the audience to conform their own." I think that nowadays he's already dictating which way to go without waiting for the mainstream.

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Legend of Zu is kinda trash among all of his masterpieces. It has nothing to do with "a movie", but some nonsense "visual effects". You like it? Go to play the video game.

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I'm pretty much sure Legend Of Zu will be once looked at as his the most accomplished and greatest effort of his career. That film defines true power of this filmmaker. It's just mostly misunderstood as most of his films. Definitely Peking Opera Blues would never enrich my life as much as LOZ. So the bottom line is, Peking Opera Blues is not even in my top 10 of his films. Hardly his best film to be honest with you.

Tsui Hark is one of the true greatest filmmakers of all-time.

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are you off your head?
Legend of Zhu was 3 hours of PURE YAWN. they could've replaced all the actors with wood if they'd given them better coifs. The star of this film was definitely the hair, and you can tell. Horrid film.

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How would Legend of Zu enrich anybody's life? It's just dull acting, a weird story and a ton of CGI. I mean, come on.

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...How the hell would a movie that consists of pretty much nothing but CGI enrich your life?

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"in the 80's TsuiHark was making just movies that would fit to the mainstream, today he doesn't even make films, he's making masterpieces. It's no secret that he's made a lot of progress since then."

Couldn't have said it better myself. This is so true! Tsui Hark is responsible for so many great movies that it's hard to choose which one could be the best or even second best (which is very unlike the case about J.Woo's repertoire) it's an insult just being so cocksure about this film as far as the talk about his best effort goes. Personally, Once Upon a Time in China I _II, Swordsman II, Legend of Zu, Green Snake, Seven Swords, Shanghai Blues, Zu: Warriors, The Blade, Butterfly Lovers take the cake here.... Peking Opera Blues would be right behind all of them.

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Where can one find this film? (other than bootlegs off of ebay)







Thanks.

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I've seen almost all of Tsui Hark's films, and I think the original poster's claim that PEKING OPERA BLUES is his greatest film isn't unjustified.

Tsui Hark's done many films in wildly divergent styles, and most of them are brilliant. But PEKING OPERA BLUES is a classic, and any suggestion otherwise seems wrong-headed to me.

Is it his greatest film? I'm not sure. But I'd certianly place it amongst his greatest films.

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I totally agree with cul-de-sac, Legend Of Zu is out of question one of the greatest most powerful movies of all-time, and probably the best film i've ever seen in my life... i can't help but Peking Opera Blues can not be even measured to such greatness.

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I'm convinced this is all an elaborate spoof.

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An elaborate spoof? That makes sense, since none of the claimed lovers of the Zu films and Seven Swords can express in any intelligent way what makes those films so amazing. Maybe it's like the Shaq Fu boards on GameFAQs.

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Probably because no one asked, you twit. I just love those films like millions of others, i dont have to explain why on a board of a totally different film. Get real.

for your info, Zu films and Seven Swords are generally regarded as ones of the best works of this filmmaker by the average audience. Do yourself a favor and read the reviews of them on their own boards, and stop making fools of yourselves. Thank you.

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"for your info, Zu films and Seven Swords are generally regarded as ones of the best works of this filmmaker by the average audience. Do yourself a favor and read the reviews of them on their own boards, and stop making fools of yourselves. Thank you. "

I have, and most of them border on incoherent. If they're not incoherent, they're incredibly vague. Things like "the philosophy is expressed amazingly".

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Hmm, seems that Legend of Zu has a 5.3 rating on here. Well played!

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While I would never deign to disagree with the sundry rabble congregated on IMDb's forums to howl their opinions at the moon like quasi-literate werewolves, the Hong Kong critical establishment, many of whom have written and analyzed Tsui's entire body of work at exhaustive length and detail, generally agree that "Dangerous Encounters" and "Peking Opera Blues" are his masterpieces. I wholeheartedly agree, with a personal nod towards "Green Snake," mostly for dint of its stunning visual design.

His later output has increasingly regressed into hoary CGI spectacle *specifically* designed to pander to its audiences. The sentiment that he's recently become a visionary genius who is "reforming his audience's tastes" is one of the most preposterous things I've ever read, akin to claiming James Cameron and Steven Spielberg are at the forefront of the avant-garde, 'challenging' us with their 'visionary' use of, well, CGI and a whole boatload of money. "Time and Tide," in particular, is a dim shadow of what this guy used to be doing. And I'd take the gonzo craftsmanship of "We're Going to Eat You" over any of his recent CGI oom-pah-pah parading any day of the week.

Not to be confrontational or anything, but you're as much of an authority on this subject as I am on neutrino mechanics.

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I haven't noticed that anyone tried to come off as some authority like the last poster was claiming, personally I think that ppl are only expressing their opinions, and I dont think most people care whatr some critical establishment thinks of his work when more and more people are embracing his later work as well, if anything its the new generation that will define what the majority thinks. This was a really good quote that I would totally agree with -
*These days he doesn't conform or compromise his vision, he's literally forcing the audience to conform their own.* If anything the reason his latter output didn't fare so well cause he was not pandering to the mainstream anymore, he was working on new trends and paradigms for the audience to follow. He is an extremely challenging filmmaker who doesnt try to make it easier for the audience, but he also has commercial populist aspects of cinema in mind so many snobs easily write off his films just based on the aesthetics alone, which is wrong and misleading. Personally I think Tsui Hark has become a much better overall artist and far better filmmaker than in his beginnings when he really didn't quite know what he was doing yet.

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