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Still Think About the Families


Whenever I really enjoy a show as good as THE DELIBERATE STRANGER, I think of the victims and their families who were left behind. Many of the parents are deceased now. What they suffered through was tremendously tragic. My heart goes out to them for their grief and suffering. Eleanor Rose really brought home how such intense pain can nearly destroy someone's life. Makes me grateful for what I have and have endured because compared to their suffering, my pains have been small. I hope they find some comfort that there are those of us who will never forget and wish them peace.

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Thank you for this. Those of us in the NW have had more than our share of sociopathic homicidal rampages, and there are only a few degrees of separation between any of us and any of them.

Bundy's mother also passed away a week ago. I sincerely hope that she can now rest in peace herself. Any mother can make a few mistakes based on good intentions. But NO mother wants their child to become anything remotely like he became. I felt nothing but sympathy for her.

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Usually, sociopathic cases like that don't have a cause. They just surface, which makes the case infinitely fascinating. He had a good up bringing, no signs of abuse. When things like that happen, the parents are always responsible, but get the blunt end of the shame. It's crazy.

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I hope that that Louise Bundy is resting in peace also. It's not her fault what her son became. Like many others, he fooled her with the fake front he presented.

I always feel for the victims and their families. The pain that Bundy's victims endured and the grief of their families (and I feel this about all serial killer victims, another case in point being John Wayne Gacy) is so difficult to read about, and when you see footage of the parents especially it's just heartbreaking. Many of them have probably passed on now; I hope they are reunited with their children and are in a happier place. But those young people who lost their lives would probably be parents and grandparents now had they been allowed to live.

I have an interest in criminology so I can understand why serial killers are studied, but it bothers me to no end how the victims are always pushed into the background, and it's not fair. They had the right to live. They were loved, they had their whole lives ahead of them. Innocent lives taken away and families destroyed because some cold-blooded sociopath decided to play god and get an evil thrill from another person's pain.

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Thank you Cultfilmfeverforever for your compassionate post. Although I have been fascinated with serial killers and true crime stories in general since I was a little girl, I have always felt a profound sadness for the murder victims and their loved ones. How could any parent even survive, knowing that their child was murdered? On top of that, Bundy left countless victims undiscovered, such as Debby Kent, and her family must have endured endless agony. God bless them all. Bundy is surely rotting in hell right now.

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Thank you, Solid_Gold, for your kindness. You are so right about Debby Kent and the others. It irks me that the victims' names are forgotten while their murderers are infamous and live on as celebrities. I guess that is part of the tragedy of being a victim: it seems like you get erased and never were a person with a soul at all.

My cousin had a neighbor who had a badly impaired walk. She limped and had an unsteady gait. One day another neighbor told her that the woman was one of Bundy's first victims in Florida. He beat her while she was in bed asleep in her apartment right before the sorority house murders. I want to say she had been a dancer before the assault.

Thank you for your compassion. The victims and their families will always live on in the hearts and minds of many who care and cannot comprehend the senselessness of their tragic deaths.

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Cultfilmfeverforever, you seem like a very sweet lady, and the world could use more people like you, thanks for your heartfelt reply. As you said, murdererers are often the ones who are idolized by society, while the victims are long forgotten. It's beyond sickening. It's like in the satirical movie "Natural Born Killers".

Wow, that's amazing that your cousin knew that dancer victim! I do not ever recall seeing her name anywhere, but she is a very strong person to have overcome that. I read about how her career as a dancer was over after the attack and attempted murder, and I believe she also became partially deaf? I wonder about one of Bundy's earlier victims, who they often refer to as Joni Lenz. Bundy broke into her flat and rammed an object into her genitals and beat her. Then there is little Ann-Marie Burr, who was 8 when she vanished. Many speculate that Ted Bundy kidnapped her when he was 15. Can you imagine her poor family? Her parents died never knowing where their daughter went. I read an article on Huff Post that failed to link him to her, but that could be store to the passage of time, which often deteriorates physical evidence.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/05/ann-marie-burr-ted-bundy_n_99 6660.html

You sound like you'd make a great couselor or social worker! If you aren't, perhaps you should consider!





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I'm glad "The Deliberate Stranger" shined a light on the victims impacted. What was it that Richard Larsen said about how can someone be so selfish to think that their need (compulsion) is more important than the lives of others? That really gets me. The scary part is that Bundy was awful close to getting away with a slap on the wrist; if he would have stuck it out with his case in Colorado (which was considered weak),other jurisdictions might have backed off potential charges, since non of their cases were very strong either (Florida had him good though).

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When I saw the thread title, I thought immediately of Eleanor Rose. I am glad that you brought her up as someone whose life was destroyed by her daughter's homicide. I read somewhere that she never sold Denice's (her daughter) car, never altered her bedroom, and suffered from anorexia to the point of hospitalization. Bundy had many victims and not just the ones he murdered and maimed.

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