Was Barbara Coles' character Mary about to watch Prometheus?
And Apone and Dietrich were too late to prevent her fate from arriving?
shareSee you're the kind of person who slams someone for liking a movie, like Prometheus specifically, that has a scene where someone takes off their helmet to make himself a test subject even though the air was tested and noted to be clean.
Meanwhile you sit back and shamelessly enjoy watching a bunch of professional Marines, even further in the future, who charge KNOWINGLY into a contaminated alien mess where colonists have died.... And the Marines utilize absolutely zero protection, and you don't care.
You just munch your popcorn and save your judgment for others, because you're a hypocrite troll with no standards whatsoever.
Actually, you probably look down on them for being soldiers, so you assume they're ignorant. Just like in Alien, you assume a bunch of "space truckers" are ignorant, because you're extremely judgmental.
After all, if you weren't judgmental, you wouldn't have spent years upon years trolling Prometheus fans out of your own failing need to feel important.
You seem to be letting that cab sav get to your head there Spanners.
I was excited for the release of Prometheus, I saw it and was thoroughly disappointed and went to IMDb to share my woes and get on with my life, like I do with other movies which I've disliked or indeed liked.
Whilst there a cabal of cultists insisted that it was a deep and meaningful experience and that I was a 'retard', 'idiot' and/or 'moron' for not 'getting it'. I went and saw the film another time to verify their claims and instead found them to be lying, manipulative cry-bullies who considered themselves to be intellectual because the pathetic excuse for a waste of light known as Prometheus was just poor writing at almost every level and in no way held any merit regardless of the pseudosymbolism being chucked into every frame.
I educated those fools and did so with easy aplomb, to an audience who, whilst they might not admit to it, enjoyed every lunge and parry I put forward with the grace of Edmond Dantès. You and your throng of sexual miscreants got battered, humiliated and forgotten like yesterday's chip shop wrappings and yet you liked it enough to come back for more - as I said, sexual miscreants.
Before I even consider discussing Aliens with you Spanners, have you seen it?
I remember you pip pipping away about 2001 for weeks before admitting you hadn't ever actually watched it. I realise your Ritalin dosage might be too high for it to keep your attention but wasting other people's time is something only a feeble minded arse would do when they could watch it for themselves and be informed of what they are trying to discus.
Down the hatch!
I love Aliens but I have no problem admitting it has one of the worst scene in film history: when they realise they can't fire their guns but decide to keep going anyway. First there's the clunky dialogue 'Hey, isn't that a thermonuclear power conduit? If you fire armour piecing ammo through that you'll cause a nuclear explosion etc' then their is the inconceivably stupid decision to keep going even after they collect all the ammo. They know at this point that the aliens exist as they've seen a face hugger, exactly as Ripley described, they've seen the acid, they've seen the small arms fire and all the colonists are missing, so wtf are they doing going in there with no bullets? And like the worst of scenes it's totally unnecessary: when the learn they can't fire their guns they could just start to pull back but then the Aliens attack, or better still, scrap the shitty idea, have them go in with guns and still have them be decimated? I guess Cameron was just too desperate to show Gorman (and so the US military command structure) as incompetent leading to a terrible scene.
But...
But... the thing is, that's one bad scene in a really fucking good film. The pacing, the direction, the acting, the characters, the action, the music... the rest is so so fucking good.
Now Prometheus is just a never ending steam of terrible scenes. It's not just a bad film, it's a *broken* film. It was directed by a man never known for his care for plot (and pushing 80) and written by a man with a career in telling non-stories. I came out of the cinema after watching it in a state of shock. I was blown away that a film that awful could get past the story board stage never mind make it to release... so I went to imdb to see what others thought and I was fascinated by the battle raging between rational critics and people that yes, can only be described as cult like. 'You just didn't get it' i.e. you're too dumb to appreciate this masterpiece. Glad to see the battle still rages on...
"the inconceivably stupid decision to keep going even after they collect all the ammo"
Thanks , I always thought it might have gone better if Gorman told them *why* no bullets , but I never noticed that before that he should have just pulled them out.
You think that was the only bad thing about Aliens?
What about the decision to barricade themselves in a facility for 17 days with limited ammo. Especially when those before them (with better knowledge of said facility ) had previously tried and failed to do this. All whilst knowing that they (Xenos) would probably gain access anyway (hicks even says 'we gotta figure on them getting in').
Surely the best decision was to try to secure their position whilst Bishop remote pilots the dropship, and not wait for rescue in 17 days !
Actually the other bad thing about Aliens is that there's nobody around on the massive spaceship to come and rescue them. Which is ridiculous. But I don't have a problem with them trying to hole up for 17 days (as Ripley said, Newt survived for longer and she wasn't a marine).
So yeah - it's got some serious flaws but it's still a classic. I'd say Aliens is 95% fantastic 5% awful, whereas Prometheus is 95% awful 5% mediocre.
{But I don't have a problem with them trying to hole up for 17 days (as Ripley said, Newt survived for longer and she wasn't a marine). }
Newt was the only one small enough to really get in the vents with ease. but either way, the plan to hold out for 17 days was a poor option when you look at how easy it was in the end to get that second dropship.
Prometheus is one of those movies that part of me doesn't mind. But as part of the alien story it is a big mess.
Yeah but she also wasn't a team of marines armed with assault rifles.
And actually I think Bishop was already on his way to get the dropship at that point...? He's not there when the Aliens attack? It has been about 20 years since I saw it.
Obviously you won't agree but Prometheus isn't just a bad film IMO, it's a *broken* film. Nothing makes sense, nothing is internally consistent, it lacks drama, has no likeable characters, the few actions scenes are poor, the whole thing is just one great big mess. And worst of all, as you say - it doesn't even fit into the Alien films. I mean - that thing in Alien is not a guy in a space suit. Jesus. How does something like that make it into an actual movie?
Yeah but she also wasn't a team of marines armed with assault rifles.
True, but....how long did they last?
Bishop goes for the dropship after it is discovered the whole place is going to blow up. Which begs the question why wasn't that a consideration during the original plan to secure their position. I mean, hold up for 17 days when you have the means to call down the second dropship, c'mon!
R:E Prometheus.
I do agree with you. Just for some reason I don't mind it as a movie. I can't even explain why.