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What cities would have been targeted


The film didn't mention targets except for London but what other cities would have been targeted by the Soviet Union?

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The Soviet Union had more than enough nuclear warheads to hit every large city in the UK if they had reason to.

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I live in Manchester and I remember reading that my city alone had 3 missiles pointed at it.

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Re Manchester I'd hazard a guess they would be aimed at

1) The city centre. This would also take out Salford, Salford docks and some of the towns to the North such as Bolton.
2) Manchester Airport. This would also take out Wythenshaw, Sale, Macclesfield, Wilslow and Jodrell Bank along with a fair portion of Cheshire.
3) Woodford Airport because of the BEA factory.

As an ex-Stopfordian it's amusing to note that Stockport lies between 5 to 7 miles from each of these locations. If the bombs had started dropping when I was a kid my family would have been well and truly dead.





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All of the UK's nukes are based on the Clyde near Glasgow.That would be the primary target, then London.

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To OP.

None. Unless the USSR had been attacked first. You see all sides in the Cold War had a firm policy never to attack first being well aware of the destructive power of the weapon for one and knowing the counter attack would wipe them out as well on the other.

That being said there were certain individuals who were hellbent on finding any way to provoke the other into a war or even using any minor provocation as a viable excuse to attack the other. The infamous general Curtis LeMay of SAC certainly was very keen on using them aggressively if required and many believed he was the inspiration for the crazy General Jack Ripper in Stanley Kubrick's comedy "Dr. Strangelove - Or How I Learned to stop Worrying and Love the Bomb".
He openly admitted he wanted to use nukes on Vietnam for instance. According to the file CIA had on him he was psychotic and arguably unfit to be in charge of such destructive power.

Also, the USSR probably saw the USA as its main target and cared less about the UK and France.

As crazy as it may sound the MAD policy guaranteed peace during the Cold War.

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There was a part of MAD called "launch on warning." This doctrine stated that either would fire their missiles if they even suspected that the other side had lanched.

The USSR would not have spared Great Britain. It was too close and well armed. The Russians would have taken it out as a precautionary measure.

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The UK has more targets per square hundred miles than any other...everyone in the UK could expect to die.

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Even those living among the hills in the Peak District, Shetlands and South Wales? Why on Earth would the Russians bomb those places?





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Cardiff would have been targeted in a strategic strike, as would all other major cities.

As for the lesser populated areas, the size of yields that Russian nukes had back then was huge. The fallout from the bombed cities would have blanketed pretty much all of the UK mainland. Living in the less populated areas might save you from the initial strike, but on an island the size of Great Britain, there would be no escape from the radiation.

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Oops. Meant North Wales.

IMO a person or family living relatively far into the Peak District or Shetlands who's prepared their home to effectively keep out fallout dust and has saved enough food and water to survive this period probably would be relatively unaffected by the initial aftermath of an attack.

Plus there are relatively large towns of no strategic value, such as Buxton in Derbyshire which features prominently in Threads, that are located many miles away from any major industry, military or travel hub and are also protected by ranges of tall hills. There's no reason why they shouldn't survive any attack relatively unscathed and any prepared citizen living in that area could sit out the fallout period.




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It depends on the kind of attack launched against the UK. If it was a tactical strike, you could expect RAF Valley to be hit in North Wales. Depending on the kind of nukes used to attack it, North Wales might get away with relatively little fallout. The likelihood though is that for the UK to be attacked, it would mean that a massive strategical strike against all of NATO was underway. In that scenario, population centers and key civilian infrastructures would also be targeted.

The deepwater harbour at Holyhead would become a target, along with the Wylfa nuclear power station. The industrial areas of the Dee Valley would be taken out, as would Liverpool and Birkenhead. Chester would probably be targeted in a strategic strike, Crewe certainly would. Warrington would be hit for its telecoms hub, the Greater Manchester area would be toast. British Army bases in Northern Ireland, along with Belfast could expect to be hit too.

Whilst many of the targets wouldn't be in North Wales itself, bearing in mind that Cardiff would certainly be hit along with South Wales' large industrial areas, North Wales would find itself completely surrounded by detonations from the North, South, East and West. Regardless of the prevailing wind directions, even North Wales would find itself blanketed by radioactive fallout...the highland, mountainous areas included.

The thing to bear in mind is that ICBMs these days carry more than one warhead. They are hundreds of times more powerful than the fire crackers that were dropped on Japan, thus throwing much more material up into the atmosphere. As far as the UK is concerned, unless you have a serious bunker with air filtration systems and a hell of a lot of food already stored, there would be no escape. Our land mass is just too small and our mainland targets are too numerous.

Tactical strike, maybe. Strategical strike, we're all screwed. Even if you had a good, strong bunker, surviving a strategical strike on the UK as a civilian would just be the beginning of a hellish nightmare. Nothing, but nothing on the UK mainland would be untouched by the massive levels of radioactive fallout. If you're out in the rural areas, the land, water and any surviving livestock would all be poisoned. There would be no transport, no fuel, no heating, no running water, no electricity, no medical care. Once your stored supplies run out, where do you go then? How do you get there? What would you find when you did get there? Take every Armageddon and doomsday film you've ever seen...the reality would be much, much worse.

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Milton Keynes.
Kirkcaldy.
Stevenage.

All good candidates.

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The harrowing drama Threads hinted that the nuclear range of the warheads used would be so vast as to only require three or four of them to render the ENTIRE UK uninhabitable afterwards!

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