Drago is a murderer


Why wasn't Drago arrested? He killed someone in cold blood

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Honestly I think the fight would have been stopped in real life.

I don't know how Boxing's governing bodies handles a fighter's death. In the movie they must have not been too happy with Rocky fighting him since they didn't want to sanction the fight.

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Instead of throwing in the towel, Apollo's team shouldve just jumped into the friggin ring and physically hauled Apollo away from Drago, rather than just standing there like retards watching their friend get slowly pummelled to death before their very eyes. Seriously, it's so dumb. It's like yeah, just about 3 or 4 dudes jump into the the ring and separate them, I doubt Drago can beat up that many at once, including Rocky himself.

And yes, that incident would have constituted murder because Drago threw the ref out the way who tried to stop it and continued to punch a defenceless Apollo, which means it stopped being a boxing match and started being a personal vendetta to kill him thus murder.

How many a$$holes we got on this ship, anyhow?!

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Nowadays it likely would have been stopped, but back in the day it wasn't uncommon for a boxer to get killed in the ring, in the 30s Max Baer killed a guy in the ring, and that wasn't the only case but IDK how that worked during the time this film was made though in other words I'm not sure if killing guys in the ring during the 80s was an acceptable thing or not.
However the Clubber/Paulie scene in the 3rd movie does make me wonder why he wasn't charged or something wasn't said about it.

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What about Clubber murdering Mickey? Or manslaughter at least.

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ALL the Rocky fights would have been stopped long before a tenth of the punches we see were thrown.

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Since he consented to the fight, and the outcome, Drago would not be liable for murder. And it wasn't in "cold blood" they had a boxing match, it's not as if he came up behind him in a dark alley and shot him in the head. There's been plenty of people killed in professional sports, if you consent to be there, then whatever Happens is your own fault,...he was too busy being a typical cocky American, and like many other cocky Americans, he didn't live up to his own hype,

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Of all the Rocky films this is the most absurd. The ref would have stopped the fight, especially as this was an exhibition bout the ref would've stepped in much earlier. Stallone really screwed up on this one. It would've been much more fitting at Apollo been knocked senseless and put in the hospital. Killing him was a tragic waste. They really did turn it into a popcorn 80s anti-Soviet Piece. And believe me, the USSR deserved to go down like it did. But this film was just absurd.

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Normally if a boxer dies in a fight it is not murder, it's just part if the game. However, in this case Drago pushed the ref aside when he tried to stop the fight and continued to beat Apollo and eventually kill him. Because of this, it might at least be considered manslaughter.

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Exactly. As long as they are both playing under the sport's rules then it wasn't a premeditated murder.

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>Exactly. As long as they are both playing under the sport's rules then it wasn't a premeditated murder.

Except, they weren't both playing under the sport's rules. Did you even watch the movie before commenting on it? The referee tried to step in and Drago threw him across the ring and continued to punch Apollo. Since when is that allowed by the rules of professional boxing?

In reality, if a boxer didn't abide by the referee's decision to stop a fight, and also throws him across the ring, that's an automatic disqualification, and any punches thrown after that are not being done in the context of a boxing match, because the boxing match is over. It would be a case of assault and battery, and if he kills someone, there would be grounds for some form of manslaughter or murder charge against him.

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In real life, he probably would have been charged with something-involuntary manslaughter most likely- but movies take 'creative license' all the time, so they had Drago walk away so Rocky could even the score later.At least that was they way I saw it.





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In real life legal action would've been taken against Drago. He shoves the ref out of the way when it's pretty obvious that the ref was coming in to stop the fight. Of course boxers can be killed in the ring but if the ref was coming in to stop the fight all punches after that would be considered assault. Also Drago would've been disqualified for what he did to the ref.

Rocky IV is a highly entertaining film but story wise it's the most unrealistic of the Rockys in more ways than one. Sure you had to suspend some disbelief with the fighting scenes in Rockys I-III but the overall storylines were still plausible about what a boxer can go through. There isn't much that's plausible regarding Rocky IV's story. But Stallone was in full action hero mode by this point so I don't think he really cared.

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When Max Baer killed Frankie Campbell, he was charged. But the way Drago killed Apollo was way worse and it did look like the referee was trying to step in. I don't understand why people didn't just rush into the ring and stop it. And I also think Drago was trying to kill Apollo. I'd like to think that after Rocky beat him, he got shipped off to Siberia and froze to death.

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Stallone said himself that Drago goes back to Russia disgraced, becomes addicted to steroids and alcohol...then kills himself lol

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Watch Creed 2 to find out the fate of Ivan Drago.

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Rocky IV feels more like a comic book movie than a "reality based" boxing movie. I always thought that Rocky Balboa seems more like a superhero here than a regular guy like in the other movies. Him wearing the red, white, and blue trunks that Apollo wore, kind of makes me look like Captain America.

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What about the ref who didn't stop the fight that was clearly out of hand? And shouldn't there have been a doctor at ringside?

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Honestly how the Ivan Drago/ Appolo Creed fight went down made absolutely no sense for a variety of reasons. The fight would have been stopped before the first round ended. He was clearly overmatched and being beaten into a bloody mess. In the highly unlikely event that the fight wasn't stopped in the first round while he was being pulverized, there is 0% chance that he is allowed to go into the second round in his condition. And yes Drago would have been immediately disqualified & charged with manslaughter for tossing the ref trying to stop the fight out of the way to continue what then had become aggravated assault. Things just had to happen the way they did because of silly movie logic

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Of course you're correct, but let's face it, every Rocky movie featured fights that would have been stopped with a tenth of the haymakers landed.

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One has to keep in mind in that the Rocky Cinematic Universe (RCU) boxing matches are different than in our world. One boxer will often stand still and let the other fighter wind up and land multiple haymakers to his jaw, any one of which would knock a man out in our world, before his turn comes and he begins winding up and landing his own barrage. It's also well known in the RCU that a boxer who has been pummeled nearly to death, and is on the mat on the verge of losing consciousness will routinely pop up as if nothing had happened and begin punching the other fighter. And of course, as any citizen of the RCU knows, a boxer who has been severely beaten, and unable to even slightly damage his opponent for 11 1/2 rounds, will suddenly find the strength to easily knock the other guy out in the final 30 seconds of the fight. So of course in the RCU the refs know better than to stop a fight, and were no doubt perplexed when Apollo didn't spring back up and knock out Drago.

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After tossing the ref out of the way, isn't it at best assault and battery followed by involuntary manslaughter?

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that's exactly what it should have been. on top of that it wasn't a real fight it was supposed to be an exhibition.

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Havent seen it in decades
he tossed the ref out the way?

I was about to reply the ref should be charged but not if he was tossed out the way

I agree
isn't it at best assault and battery followed by involuntary manslaughter?

and at worst - murder
I can see prosecutors saying "no thats not assualt , he knew his fists were killer weapons and used them - murder"

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