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This movie is symbolically about MK ultra mind control...


Interesting write up about that here.

http://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesandtv/return-oz-creepy-disney-movie-blatantly-mind-control/

"We all go a little mad sometimes." - Norman Bates

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So true and so messed up. Is this real life?

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It's a good interpretation, and totally functional, but it's not the creative intent behind the movie.

What we see and what we seem are but a dream. A dream within a dream.

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it's certainly odd how apt that explanation is.

I remember seeing this for the first time when I was, like, seven. I pretty much just thought "what the hell is this?" I mean it was entertaining, but it was so damn weird. it had all the trappings of a kid's movie of the era, and it looked really cool, but had this weird dark vibe that I couldn't decide if I thought was cool or not. like, weird in a way where its details added up to this wholly novel, chilly, and somehow abusive feel that wasn't like anything else I'd ever seen.

I mean, a little girl being given electroshock therapy by a couple of creepy old-time doctor types, that's some dark sht.

something truly was going on in the eighties that enabled the production of all these great movies, seriously. I don't know what it was. I like to think that it was when executive producers were willing to take a chance on new ideas. and the industry had only just grew into the monster it is today, and was before it had become too conservative (for whatever reason). I mean most of the "reboots" you see now were made in the 70s to the 90s.

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Before Dorothy leaves for the ward, she finds a key with the symbol for Oz. It represents the key to her core personality - her true self. Once she arrived to the ward, we see the Dr. Worley holding the key. This represents him taking over her psyche and becoming her MK handler.


Dr. Worley gives her back the key before showing her the ETC machine.

We've met before, haven't we?

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