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Mala Noche is a MALA MOVIE!


Ok, granted: The movie was filmed in the early or mid 80's I think, and you might even claim that the latino talent pool was not as big back then as it is now. But C"MON!
The guys who were cast as the young mexican homeless boys were HORRIBLE!
Spanish is my first language and I could tell that the actors who portrayed JOhny and Robert were not fluent at all in SPANISH which for this film it is a MAJOR point since they re supposed not to speak ENGLISH. I guess that explains the reason why when Johny had dialogue, the camera was not on him, and the times when he spoke and the camera was on him there was no sync. I am 100 percent sure that they used someone else's voice ( a bad actor's at that) to do the voice over for Johny. For someone who speaks Spanish it was PAINFUL to listen to the monotone, emotion-deprived delivery of the lines.
I dont know under what circumstances these two horrible actors were cast but I am sure the director did not do a thorough audition process to get the best actors.
The actor who played Robert was better at ATTEMPTING to sound better in spanish. I still dont know if he was fluent in spanish, which it sounds like he was. And if he was then he was just saying the grammatically incorrect lines given to him by the director without complaining about not being correct.
One of the examples is when he is being harrased by the white guy. Roberto says:" Para. No me molesto". Translated that means: " Stop. It doesn't bother me".or " Stop. I dont get bothered". Im sure the intention of the writer was: " Stop. DONT bother me" which should've been: "Para. No me molestes".
The only character that spoke good spanish was the guy who was telling the story of how they crossed the border. And I could bet the reason that being is because probably he really went thru that and he was just being interviewed ( he did not NEED to act)I doubt that was scripted. That part when he's talking, it totally threw me out of the movie, because it had a documentary feel to it and then to go back into the bad acting was like, disconnected.
Among other things,it was torture when they had the spanish speakers dialogue on the background. They kept on repeating the same dialogue over and over and over again! same lines over and over! I guess it would work for non-spanish speakers, because they just hear a foreing language and they have no idea whats being said. But when you understand the language you get so frustrated that you wanna throw a shoe at the tv and make it shut up.
I would think producers would invest in hiring a dialect coah from the portrayed country to make sure the actors are within character. When they dont, you get results such as Benicio Del Toro getting an OSCAR for his work in TRAFFIC, portraying a MEXICAN, but yet he had COLOmBIAN, PUERTO RICAN accent! That's like giving Nicole KIdman an Oscar for portraying an American and her doing it with her Australian Accent.
I really like Gus Van Sant's directing.
I have no idea, and im very curious to know what pressed or forced Mr Gus Van Sant to cast these horrible actors. Was it pressure from the producers, or did he honestly think these guys were the BEST?
I realy hope that the casting of OVERRATED actor Diego Luna in his latest film (MILK) was because of the talent Luna might have and not because of the NAME factor. Although Im afraid it may be the latter.


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Antinous_32:

As I said in my post " For someone who speaks Spanish it was PAINFUL to listen to the monotone, emotion-deprived delivery of the lines."
I am assuming that you do not speak spanish and based on your comment: "the two guys playing the illegals certainly looked and acted the part especially Doug who was great as Johnny", you are one who thinks all "ILLEGALS" look one single type. I'll give you the "look" part, but those amateur performers in NO WAY acted or portrayed their respective roles properly.
Its one thing to READ subtitles and another to experience the horrible acting in a language you understand.
The only reason I rented MALA NOCHE is because I do like Van Sants directing style, but I do think his actor's choice for this particular film was erroneous.
BTW, I did not find the film exciting at all.

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I just didn't understand why the main character was so in love with those two- they weren't even attractive (especially Johnny) and they didn't even seem to like him. His attraction to them made very little sense to me and that kind of ruined the whole movie for me. I did like the way some of the shots were set up though.

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i liked the part when they tried out their camera and the film turned "color" for a bit. (there's a similar, much more magical moment in Dark Horse, a Danish movie)

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lmfao.. and given the bad acting of the actors you'da thought that they'd just hire a hot mexican immigrant to do the role. or maybe that's exactly what they did and the director didn't bother translating himself to the "actors"?

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I know this is a five year old post, but I feel like responding anyway.

I think the thing you have to realize is that this was a micro-budget film. Van Sant paid out of his own pocket, so he probably couldn't afford to hire better actors or a dialect coach. I can still see how that would bother a native Spanish speaker, but he probably tried to do the best that he could. It's not as if this is the only shortcoming of the film. Tim Streeter may speak English without issue, but he still wasn't very good as Walt. It's just a low-fi production all around, so the lack of authenticity in the Mexican characters doesn't stand out.

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