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Full Frontal Pool Scene

posted 16 years ago by rickdvd-1
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You have to pause the film to see it, but it's there at the beginning of the pool scene about midway thru the film. Some of those who are lined up are not covering their genitals! I've seen this MANY times and never really noticed it until tonight!

The shot, which is a VERY long shot BTW, contains 3-5 people who weren't shy at all and didn't cover their genitals. You see a bunch of the boys limed up naked in front of a swimming pool. They are then lectured about how they are in poor physical condition.

[–] tohu 16 years ago

Yes.

So? This is what happened in these schools at this time.

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[–] sonofbeach-sheet 16 years ago

That is just downright disturbing. In today's society, you don't even THINK to make the boys take showers after gym class and here they were swimming in the buff. The instructor priests must have had a field day

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[–] crapsdealer711 14 years ago

kind of an extreme scene I guess. When I was in high school in the mid 80s swimming was required in phys ed. I remember I had gym ist period 730am in january. I wad to walk to school in feezing temp only to take swim class. we were required to shower first and then stand in line naked as the teacher distributed speedos as we were not allowed to wear our own suit. So this scene may disturb some but was a little more realistic than people realize. only thing different for me is that we were given suimwear and were not lectured on physical fitness in the buff. lol

[–] crapsdealer711 12 years ago

this is quite a good movie...just got done watching it again

[–] chas437 12 years ago

Yes, it is a very good film.

Regarding the swimming pool scene, I makes me realize how these kinds of environments were ripe for child molestation in secrecy.

[–] tchando 10 years ago

Just seeing this movie for the first time.
My mother told me about her catholic school in the 50's. The priest would take only the boys out to a camp to go swimming and they were only allowed to swim naked. The girls had to sit in class. She said all of the girls were mad at the time but looking back, how creepy the situation was.

[–] MontanaJones 12 years ago

The same thing went on in public school at that time too.

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[–] GeorgeObliqueStrokeXR40 10 years ago

My swim classes at the Y were all nude. Modesty and the need for privacy were considered to be abnormal. Today, teens don't swim together nude, Instead they learn that there is something dirty and shameful about their bodies and send each other naked pictures of themselves to each other on cell phones, or post videos of their sexual behavior on-line.

[–] TeaBunny 10 years ago

So it's better to have swim classes naked rather than have kids send pictures on their phones? Are you saying the body is shameful or is not shameful? Parents flip out when anything is sexual around their children, yet naked classes would be OK?

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[–] GeorgeObliqueStrokeXR40 10 years ago

No oneshould be ashamed of their body. Bathing nude with others is absolutely better than posting pornographic selfies. I am not saying that nude swim classes would be okay today, but I am saying that at one time in this US, nude swim classes for males were the norm, and that many public health codes mandated nude swimming. That was a time when gym and swim classes were segregated by sex, and the YMCA was not open to female membership. There was nothing shocking about it - it was as normal as showering naked. Nude swimming ended in most pools by the early 1970s.

[–] sonofbeach-sheet 10 years ago

Showering naked in a communal shower, not hiding your privates under a towel in the changing room, or not changing in the stalls is considered abnormal behavior in today's teen boy world! The politically correct fascists, feminazi's, and acceptance of homosexuality has emasculated teens. And of course any man that defends naked communal showering and swimming is a deviant.

[–] GeorgeObliqueStrokeXR40 10 years ago

There are probably multiple reasons that brought an end to nude communal swimming as the norm, including the desegregation of swim classes by gender, the opening up of the YMCA to female members, and the panic that ensued the AIDS crisis and the revelation of the clergy sex predator scandals.

Additionally, the health reasons that originally brought it about were no longer a significant health issue - before the days of contolled testing and chloronation, there was a very real fear of boys wearing swimwear in a public swim area that had been contaminated by wearing in rivers or lakes. In the days before modern public sanitation and modern public sewage treatment, there was a real fear of the spread of diphtheria. Requiring a soap and water sower prior to entering the pool, and eliminating bathingsuits was a way to control a vector of potential water contamination in a public pool.

[–] Splarne 10 years ago

add one more...

common sense finally kicked in. why in the world do you need to see everyone else's junk? put a suit on and get in the water. no problem.

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[–] OldFriendOfTheChristys 10 years ago

One of the things I find interesting about the gym I belong to is the generational differences in attitudes toward nudity. For example, older members have no qualms about walking around the locker room sans clothes. Having 10-minute conversations with people without so much as a towel on. Younger members, on the other hand, never do this. They’re only nude when they need to be.

[–] GilesEnsor 10 years ago

Used to shower communally when i was at school and it was considered absolutely normal. I went back to the same school many years later and there were individual shower booths. And even more shockingly, there was hot water!!!!! No, I didn't go to a Catholic school; this was a normal C of E boarding school in the UK. No wonder we lost the empire.