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OT: Oh Brother Constance, where are you? :(

posted 12 years ago by zeeboe82
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I watched this clip yesterday of some elderly bus-monitor in New York getting bullied by some middle-school kids. The way they talked to her made my face turn red with anger.

http://youtu.be/XAgti_2uziA

I wish "Brother Constance" was a real person, and he was as young, and able-bodied as he was in "Heaven Help Us", and those little brats in the clip were in his class. He'd teach them a lesson for sure.

You know, when we get to the point in society where ADULTS are getting bullied by KIDS, you know things have gotten bad. I mean, that's so messed up. If I EVER spoke to an adult the way these kids did when I was a boy, the only medication I'd get is a hard slap to the face and a lash to my butt with a belt several times and I would have trouble sitting down for the rest of my life. This is why spanking in schools needs to be brought back. You'd never see a kid bullying an adult in a 1960's Catholic school.

To all those anti-spanking people: Today, because spanking has been taken away, we now live in a society where bad kids can do whatever they desire to people, kids and adults, and they get away with it, scott-free, while the innocent have to suffer. When we had spanking, all these liberal types whined about it being unfair to kids, but when adults ran the system, at least the innocent was protected. Kids and teens who got spanked typically DESERVED it! No one just got spank because. But because of criminal-lovers, we now suffer in today's world.

Would you rather live in a society run by kids or adults? I say adults.

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[–] sonofbeach-sheet 11 years ago

I agree, but Rooney was the only one that really deserved an ass-whipping. Brother Constance had a hard-on for Dunn and Dunn was one of the nicest and quietest kids!

[–] taloriastiffin 10 years ago

Wow, I actually hate every single word you just wrote. I'm not even liberal, and I know that Constance was a power-hungry, self entitled *beep* as Rooney would say. You're probably so much of a prick, you were cheering Constance on the entire time. Spanking is not an effective form of punishment and neither is Catholic school. I probably also hate you.

[–] zeeboe82 10 years ago

Well, tough taloriastiffin. You have to resort to insults because you can't debate me, which sums up your kind. Spanking went on for hundred's of years and worked fine until whiny liberals, who were probably spoiled brats as kids, grew up and started complaining about it. Now we live in a society where children bully adults.

Teenage boys can be some of the most immature and ruthless people on earth. They need to be kept in line. Babying them and bribing them into behaving only makes them think they can get away with anything and will get rewarded if they are nasty enough. They are nothing but leeches. I wish people like you would be the one who gets stuck dealing with them everyday since you love them so much.

[–] bastasch8647 9 years ago

zeeboe, you are quite mistaken. There is no reason on earth that would excuse Constance's behavior. Not one. It is not a matter, as you opine, that teens need to be "kept in line". Even if they need to be kept in line, Constance's methods are exactly the wrong way to accomplish this goal, as they are both illegal and immoral. You'd turn teachers into little Hitlers with a satisfied smirk on your face. Shame on you.

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[–] averagejoeman2013 9 years ago

He was overly aggressive but would be needed for the most unruly juveniles. Society is slowly imploding without discipline.

[–] sonofbeach-sheet 9 years ago

Brother Constance was a prim, malicious, self-righteous, sexually frustrated a'hole that felt the need to beat and berate the weaker or quieter kids.

[–] Stevicus-2 9 years ago

I think the difference back then was that there was firmer parental support, and Constance was also relying on the fact that, in a lot of these neighborhoods, a priest's word was treated like the word of God. The kids withstood the punishment since they knew that standing up to a priest would have entailed even worse consequences from their parents.

Constance showed a bit of his true colors with his "I'm taking this to the Bishop" speech at the end.

I don't think he'd last 5 minutes in some of these schools nowadays, especially if he was among people who didn't respect his clerical authority as they did back in those days. He wasn't that tough. Dunn sure made short work of him.

[–] sonofbeach-sheet 8 years ago

Dunn was indeed a hero that he stood up to Constance the way he did. He was the nice, quiet, unassuming new guy that wanted to just get through school, but the fact that he fell into company with the class alpha male and bully AND the egghead and reject did not help. He initially and passively endured abuse from Constance, but when it came down to Constance abusing a pleading Caesar, that was it.

Jay Patterson did such a great job portraying such a self-entitled blowhard narcissist that thought he had the upper hand just because he was a Catholic school teacher and brother. And equally good in a Places in the Heart as the cotton salesman that tries to rob Sally Field her rightful share of her bounty both before and after the harvest.