When the dog part is thrown into the water and everyone drinks it they automattically start feelling ill. Yet when Martin is thrown into the well proably taking a mouthful of the diseased water he dosent catch the plauge and start feeling ill why is this?
share> (...) why is this?
Continutiy bug.
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"I used to be Tommy Vercetti, now I'm Phil Cassidy."
NO!!!
it is not a continuity bug...
the answer is simple... NOT EVERYONE WHO WAS EXPOSED TO THE PLAUGE DIED< OR EVEN GOT SICK!!!
and if you really want to get technical... people did not get sick and die within minutes of drinking dog infested water...
Chello!
In my opinion, the tainted water was just coincidential timing. Remember, they'd been living in a castle for about a week that had at least one plague victim in it. The only people we ever see bathe are Martin and his "angel"! ;)
In other words, i think they were perevious infected...
Tony
"Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves."
He didn´t swallow any water, and so he didn´t die i think.
shareearlier in the movie it's shown that lancing the boils can cure the plague, presumably if he did catch it then this is what he would've done.
Yes, but only Steven knew about that. He informed the doctor before he was captured, but no-one ever told Martin about it.
Martin should have been dead by the end anyway, if someone raps a chain around your neck 2 or 3 times then pulls on it you'll die because your throat will collapse.
> Martin should have been dead by the end anyway, if someone raps a chain
> around your neck 2 or 3 times then pulls on it you'll die because your throat
> will collapse.
Yes it will. But Steven is just a weakling. He issn`t strong enough.
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You don't have to be very strong to crush someones windpipe with a steel chain. I'd suspect your average 12 year old would be more than capable of this not very amazing feat.
share> You don't have to be very strong to crush someones windpipe with a steel
> chain.
If you think that you obuisly never tried it.
Takes a long time to strangle someone, doesn`t matter if you use a garrot or a steel chain.
If you can`t position your knee right or have to attack from the front (bad idear if you only have a garrot or something simillar!) you stand a good chance of not breaking the persons neck while strangeling him, which will make the strangeling take even longer.
And they always spit and drool all over the place and make the weirdest sounds till they finally collapse...
I much prefer a K-bar through the kidney in the lung or heart. Much quicker, much more effiecent and less fuzz.
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>If you think that you obuisly never tried it.
>Takes a long time to strangle someone, doesn`t matter if you use a garrot or a steel chain.
No, not personally. If I was ever in the same situation as Steven was I'd have been more efficient than resorting to using the chain. I would either use a rabbit chop to break Martins neck, break his neck by twisting his head very fast, or if I'm feeling a bit cruel, use my good hand to reach around and grab his Adams apple and tear his throat out.
If you had a knife to hand though the whole thing is much easier. As you said you could use an upward stabbing motion to get under the ribs to Martins vital organs, which is what I believe they teach in the armed forces now, or you could just sever some arteries, like the ones in his neck, and let him bleed to death.
>> If you think that you obuisly never tried it.
> No, not personally.
See, I have. Sentry neutralization used to be part of one of the jobs I once had.
> (...) which is what I believe they teach in the armed forces now
They have been doing that since the 1960s.
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"I used to be Tommy Vercetti, now I'm Phil Cassidy."
"If I was ever in the same situation as Steven was I'd have been more efficient than resorting to using the chain. I would either use a rabbit chop to break Martins neck, break his neck by twisting his head very fast, or if I'm feeling a bit cruel, use my good hand to reach around and grab his Adams apple and tear his throat out."
That only works in the movies, you know. In real life, the victim would have to have a thin and weak neck, and the perpetrator would have to be very strong. And you would have to twist it far beyond the head's turning radius. Twisting the head 90 degrees will never break a neck.
It would also require extraordinary strength to break a healthy neck with a strike, unless you knew exactly how and where to strike. Even so, you would dislocate rather than break.
And tear his throat out... maybe if you were feeling stupid, you might try this. You'd find your wrist broken before you could even inflict pain.
The best bet would have been to hit Martin's neck/head with the chain. You seem to have forgotten that he had it.
> (...) Even so, you would dislocate rather than break.
The Axis breaks most of the time if you use a garrot and put your knee in the middle vertebra at the same time.
If you know where the axis is it can paralyze somebody quickly and then you can finish him very easy.
But I still prefer my Sarah up close. Hand to hand gets to messy and takes to long if you not use any weapons.
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"I used to be Tommy Vercetti, now I'm Phil Cassidy."
How do you know this? Who did you murder when you were 12 years old?
share"No Martin, touch that and we're all dead!!" Steven quite plainly warned Martin that he dog's meat carried plague. So why did Martin survive? Could it simply be that in reality people die or survive due to simple luck instead of some BS religious "more than human" factor? Martin and his men were scum. But were his employers one cent better? I think not.
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Don't expect medical accuracy in movies. As for plague, 1) some people are immune; 2) contaminating water isn't a very effective way of spreading it; and 3) lancing the buboes wouldn't help much.
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The Bubonic plague did not have 100% mortality. Some lucky people would make it through...especially lancing the boils.
shareBy the time depicted in the movie the plague would only kill 50% of its victims.
Since coming to Europe in 1346 the infection rate had dropped off. As had the mortality rate.
Also to be infected from water it would have to contain the vomit of the lice (which includes the Y. Pestus bacteria which causes Bubonic plague) and the infection would not be 100% certain.
BTW if Martin had had plague earlier his body would have more resistant to re-infection.
Besides if he died the movie would have been anti-climactic.
As a student of this historical period I find it to be one of the best and accurate depictions of the era.
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