First off: I *DON'T* want to start a general sequel disscusison (this is neither filmschool nor "Scream 2"!) *AND* I'm a sucker for sequels, even bad ones! I just love when a story is continued, plot- and characterlines are advanced (which I consider a real sequel, not if you just remake the first movie a little different).
> This film needs no sequel.
It would be nice to see where Martin goes from where he was. His storyline is the only one that is really contiunuable. Maybe that of the general, too, but Agnes and Stevens's storyline has IMO ended. They might be appearing, somewhere in the background or in a small sideplot that really only serves to get something going, but dossn't directly involve them (and I don't mean that Martin goes Paul Kersey/D-Fence on them and disposes of them, just so Hawkwood can hunt him down and kill him. That wouldn't be fair to Agnes & Steven!).
> Let it go. It's an excellent film.
Full Ack. One of the best - if not THE! - and acurate/true middle-ages movie ever made.
> A sequel would smash its proverbial face into a pile of proverbial feces.
Really depends if your just looking for money - like Braga/Berman - or you wana create something beautiufull that will stand the test of time forever, like Stracinsky, Weadon or Lucas.
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Tank-the-Hatchet
19 years ago
> [...] Making a sequel to this would be like making a sequel to RoboCop. We
> all know how that ended up.
I actually liked "Robocop 2". Now, "RC-3" - that sucked!
>> [...] like Stracinsky, Weadon or Lucas."
> How did Lucas get in there!?!
Because the two SW-trilogies will be around for a long time. All your questions about good, evil, religion, love and friendship can be answered by watching these six movies carefully.
> In my opinion, he sucks . . . big time!
Thats your opinion.
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> [...] but the subplot of Murphy's humanity is dropped very, very soon into
> the film.
But it plays throughout and is even very important to the film as a whole. If you mean this crap with his wife: I'm glad they axed that early.
> [...] Neither would . . . (Shudder) Flesh + Blood II.
That all depends who would make it and how.
>> All your questions about good, evil, religion, love and friendship can be
>> answered by watching these six movies carefully."
> Um . . . No. Lucas' idea of 'good' and 'evil' is very melodramatic.
It is very black and white, I'll give you that. But it`s very clear and that`s whats important.
> There is no clear line between good and evil;
IMO you just are not able to see it.
> I have no questions about love. I try not not to ask questions for which
> there is no answer. The same thing goes for friendship, but not to as great
> an extent.
That only means your scared and prefer to run with the crowd in fear for standing up and being left alone.
> I think that when YOU say 'watching these six movies carefully', you mean you
> use 'mind expanding' drugs, no?
Nope. Only if I have to suffer through crap like "2001".
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>> That only means your scared and prefer to run with the crowd in fear for
>> standing up and being left alone."
> Hmm . . . Dr. Phil,
I HATE shrinks!
> [...] I don't run with the crowd on anything.
It sounds like.
> I have very liberal views
What has that to do with anything?
> and I don't need a hack like George Lucas telling me anything about emotions
> that are too complext to be expressed verbally.
If your only looking for words you didn`t understand the movies.
> That's what I'm trying to say.
Then say it!
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> I'm not looking for words for these emotions, but that's about all the Star
> Whores trilogy can deliver.
Another Trekkie. ;->
> It's a disastrous attempt at an epic saga which lacks plot cohesion and
> continuity.
The last I agree, the first I don`t. Cause things never go in a straight line.
> In other words, films that can't hold up when looked at as a whole (and these
> don't even hold up when taken one at a time) are worthless
Neither is true. You lack understanding and suspension of disbelief.
> and I'm not going to try to learn anything about love or friendship from
> them. Those are things you've got to learn for yourself.
Mostly yes. But they give you a very fine starting point and make excellent situations themselfs.
> Now let's agree to disagree because you obviously have different philosophies
> on things than I do so let's call it even . . . albeit in opposite
> directions.
If you ever been in a sitation like Anakin/Luke then you would probally totally agree with me. Its just like Faith on Buffy: Noboddy understands her, except the ppl who've been her. >:-}
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> True is neither. Understanding and suspension of disbelief you lack.
> Nah, I'm kidding.
You better. ;-}
> And if by 'Trekkie' you mean I'm obsessed with Star Trek, go to conventions,
> and watch every single episode of every single series and argue about which
> captain was the best . . . You're wrong.
LOL. It`s just that IME ppl who HATE SW that much usally tend to turn out hardcore Trekkies. I know, I used to be one myself. '->
> Although I do enjoy The Next Generation
Never really liked TNG that much. The douple and cliffhangerepisodes where okay, but S4 & up when they went Disney I tend not to like as much. I do own all 7 season on DVD, though. *shrug*
> and Voyager.
Don't get me started on that! Braga/Berman really messed that show up when they started grapping for money after the start of S4. It used to be my favorite trek show and then those golddigging bozos go for ratings instead of quality!
They learned NOTHING from Ep. 1 and Bab5/Buffy!
Which they PROVED roaly when they decided to make "Enterprise".
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carlosburon
18 years ago
George Lucas is just a greedy b**ch, his movies are just plain entertainment, looking for 'lessons about life' in them is hilarious.
BTW Star Trek is more of the same but with ridiculous outfits and even more boring.
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MountainCreekBluEyedGirl
18 years ago
looking for 'lessons about life' in them is hilarious.
Everything you need to know about life love friendship good and evil religion faith and family you can learn just by watching these six movies. They probally are the greates movies ever made.
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