Shower Scene Orgins


I first discovered this movie through a friend who bought this in VHS format some years ago in a bargin bin at the local video store. Having always been a fan, I purchased it later when it was brought to my attention that it was avaiable in DVD form. When I watched the film on DVD, I was shocked to discover a shower scene featuring bordeline illegal material that was not in the VHS version I had originally watched. The DVD made no mention of extra scenes, so I was wondering where the shower scene originated. Was it added to the DVD, or original to the theatrical version and subtracted from the VHS? The latter would not be suprising due to the questionable material. Please respond if you have answers.

Kessler

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I don't understand what you mean. That scene has ALWAYS been part of the movie in every version I've seen, whether it be on TV, video or DVD (and I've seen this film on plenty of occasions, Eric Roberts is so buff!!) What exactly are you referring to when you say it is illegal? All I can make out is a bit of non-sexual nudity. You see much worse down at the beach every summer down where I live. Although I can understand your confusion, as the scene could quite easily be exorcised from the final cut and not make any difference to the plot. It was meant to show a tender moment between mother and daughter I suppose.. perhaps they have a different culture in Australia where communal washing is commonplace. You've got to remember this was the 80's.. a more innocent time, when you didn't read stories of child abduction every week. I doubt you could get away with shooting a scene like that now..

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The shower scene is in my VHS copy.

I kind of wish that they had left it out. It's frustrating. Having the kid in it pretty much makes a shower scene, with a naked Gretta Scacchi, NOT sexual at all.

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the scene, to me, intends to give the viewer a glimpse of the intimate bond between the mother and daughter, not to arouse.

and yes, its on the vhs.

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Yeah, you're right. That's my problem with it.

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This movie is Australian. That makes it from a whole different part of the world and society. Try and have respect for the differences within human culture, customs, and diversity. What one of us sees negatively someone else might see in a more positive light. Also think about these things regardless of times, or locations.

Long live the 80's!

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This movie is Australian. That makes it from a whole different part of the world and society. Try and have respect for the differences within human culture, customs, and diversity. What one of us sees negatively someone else might see in a more positive light. Also think about these things regardless of times, or locations.

Long live the 80's!

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What?

I don't know how to respond to that.

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Then...don't

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jeebus people. the director is dusan makavejev. a lot of sick nakedness is expected. director's trademark.

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JV grow up I new about the scene before I rented it and I didn't see a problem with it the daughter is clearly not being molested or seem at all uncomfortable with showering with mom. Also don't judge a culture if you aren't familiar with it it is also very common for families to bathe together in Japan so I think it is pointless for people to get upset over anime like Sailor Moon seasons 2-4 or My Neighbor Totoro that show a parent bathing with there prepubescent child.

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What exactly is 'sick' about the nakedness in this particular scene?

Some people do have some big hang-ups don't they?

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Not sure I'd call it 'sick' either. Unexpected perhaps. But I'd say that observation - that it was Dusan Makavejev directing a film in the distant, more innocent days of 1985 - goes further to explain it than the suggestion that it was depicting something particularly characteristic of Australian culture.
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I suppose on a clear day you can see the class struggle from here.

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What you almost certainly wouldn't see than or now would be the same scene, equally innocent, except with the father naked bathing his daughter. It is of course not only mothers who bathe their young children and sometimes shower with them as seen in this movie. There are lots of single fathers out there who do not have anyone else to bathe their children and of course even if there is a mother around the father may still in some families be part of bathing the children.
You wouldn't however be likely to see it in a movie however especially with full frontal nudity like that since you rarely see a man do that these days

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Rockershowone660, for someone preaching tolerance, you sound very intolerant of people who don't think like you.

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I actually thought that I was defending exactly what you just pointed out. Didn't you read what I was replying to which was posted by Nikon11? That individual is the one who was bothered by what the shower scene in this movie emphasized so I wanted to point out to him or her that not everyone who watches this movie much less those who made it feel the same way. I don't know how I ended up posting the statement twice though. That was unintended. I respect everyone's opinion but feel that all too often other people do not.

Long live the 80's!

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I did read Nikon11's post. But telling him how to think and act is fascist. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of your comment. But I suppose I'm borderlining on the same infraction by telling you what's up. Hahaha. Oh well. I'm human.

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not really, you just pointed out his Hypocrisy. If you started preaching at him then you would be a tad hypocritical...imho ;)

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Well I thought it was quite steamy.

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If you think the shower scene is questionable material, you should watch "Sweet Movie" by the same director.

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The censors must have judged that the shower scene of Greta and Rebecca was "justified by context" as the guideline goes.

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