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Does stigmata really happen?


Do people randomly start bleeding from the hands in real life? If so, is there a scientific reason for it?

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It's happened yeah. People think it might be some kind of hysteria made psychical. Or God. I Remeber learning about stigmata in school and they made it sound like a good thing. Like God marking u for being holy. To me it always looked like a punishment.

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I agree. In my relationship with God I can't imagine Him inflicting something so painful to one of his ('special' children as Catholics believe another concept I disagree with. We are all special to him). Is it real? I don't know really and many investigators were just as baffled with conflicting results when they researched the documented cases. But there were plenty of fakes. Take for example the most (in)famous case of Padre Pio who was made a saint by the Catholic Church. Now I always perceived him as a creep and he scared the shlt out of me but my gosh he had thousands and thousands of followers who believed him to be another Christ almost and he encouraged it, another reason why I always thought him a fake, no humility or false one. Well it wasn't until recently that it was discovered that he used to order tons of this chemical known for inducing open wounds when applied and bleeding (and Pio would always use bandages on his hands so you could never see the origin of the wound, only that it was profusely bleeding). Needless to say, there is a heated debate going on in the Vatican and his followers so loyal to him. Personally, whenever I'd see his photos or a video I'd get this very disturbed feeling, not one you'd feel when you're around truly kind hearted people. I honestly think that he was an opposite of a saint; I believe that he worshiped the devil, not God.

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That is awfully interesting. I have never heard of Padre Pio but I will have to look him up. It does sound like he had an agenda and it may not have been a good one.

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Wow, I remember hearing about Padre Pio when I was in Catholic high school. I had forgotten all about him.

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I think it's a great blessing

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Not really.

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It's a great blessing if it's accompanied by a sense of union with the divine - which it usually is - otherwise the experiencer would not think of it as a blessing, but as a curse, mental illness, or a punishment. It's a blessing if one thinks that stigmata are signs of intimacy with the divine; it's something else again if one disbelieves in such occurrences.

Oh, and - there is a possibility that Padre Pio faked his stigmata with acid. After he died, the stigmata began to fade, as if from the "neglect" of frequent acid-treatments.

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Not at all. It's just another religious freakshow trick. When in doubt check wikipedia.

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Pio was undoubtedly a fraud.

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