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When we first meet the Terminator


We know he isn't quite human but we don't know what he is, we've seen him punch through somebody, it's revealed he's a cyborg during the nightclub shootout with him being shoot several times, running through fire, seeing his POV and later cutting his arm open and removing his eye skin to reveal his metal eye.

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Some might argue otherwise but even the strongest human couldn't punch a hole in someone's chest. So that would have made it obvious. I wasn't born til the mid 80s so I was spoiled of what he was because I didn't see Terminator 1 til after collecting a bunch of the Terminator 2 toys at the age of 6. My parents had me watch both Terminator 1 and 2 because of thinking untrue things about the Terminators from not having seen the movies.

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"..even the strongest human couldn't punch a hole in someone's chest."

How do YOU know?

Also, if you make a 'spear' out of your fingers and use enough force, I'd say it's at least plausible - you might break your fingers, but it should be possible. Have you seen those Kung-Fu masters that can punch ridiculously hard? Have you seen people with 'iron knuckles' because they've been punchin metal?

I would say your assessment is questionable at best, and unexplained, unsubstantiated, useless opinion stated as some kind of fact without any references at worst.

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First off it is pretty obvious the Terminator neither has long fingernails or brass knuckles. And frankly if you think I am wrong name me a real life event where a man punched a hole in someone's chest.

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Similar thing with T2 with the T-1000 we thought he was a human protector like Reese until the stand off at the mall.

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I was only 10 at the time, but wasn't there various trailers that ruined the surprise for us?

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I don't know, they would be on YouTube. Trailers for Genisys spoiled the reveal of John Connor becoming a Terminator.

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Oh yeah no social media, they defiantly couldn't keep that a secret today.

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You see this a lot with trailers now, when they show too much it ruins the movie for people. Same as putting a deleted scene in a trailer or on the cover of a home release box.

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I think my most recent least favorite trailer doing that is Morbious. It shows Michael Keaton's Vulture implying that Sony is setting their spin off movies in the MCU.

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I was 21 at the time and went to a "couple of days early" preview at the cinema
Was pretty surprised , i had no idea Arnie was the good guy.

There was a Guns N rRoses video doing the rounds with loads of clips, because of their song in it , but i dont think it spoiled anything .

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Bet that was a great film to watch at the cinema.

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it was , specially not knowing "what the deal was" with the funny liquid metal thingy seen glimpses of in the GnR video :)

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I remember being confused when he first shot the T1000, I thought it was a special gun.

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Arnold has such an evil face, though. If OJ Simpson had been the terminator then it would have been more ambiguous.

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Arnold in that Mr Olympia era with the right lighting/dark night/electricity etc did look like a Nietzsche superman/frankensteinian nuclear nightmare. literally the stuff of nightmares. (and with arnold all the connotations of german/nazis and soviet fear stuff that tied into the Cold War/nuclear war themes) i guess Cameron saw all that when he was interviewing Arnold for the Reese role and quickly changed his idea of the terminator as an everyman infiltrator to arnold

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The trailer doesn't hide the fact he's not human.

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The trailers were tricky if you really think about it. We see Arnold appear to be good and then bad at various points, leading the audience to believe there are 2 of them as in twins. Then you see the cop in odd moments like walking through a chaotic factory. You also see a cop bang his helmet into a helicopter before the face falls off to reveal silver stuff. You also see the cop struggling with the Terminator in other confusing scenes so we as the viewer dont really know what's going on. Not to mention a silver figure popping up from time to time. Nothing is clear until we see the movie.

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The T2 board is thataway, bud.

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i also find the trailer pretty clearly states "IT" versus him ,etc. while describing the terminator,
and shows the red POV of the machine.

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