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Was Nick Nolte sober or not?


Because, if I had agreed to do this awful movie I would have had to be wasted throughout the whole ordeal.

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I was an extra in this film. Nick was drunk most every morning. We wouldn't shoot his scenes until later in the morning or early afternoon. The scary part was when the director said action he would act totally clearheaded and do his scene, then when the director said cut he would fall apart. Glad to see he got cleaned up!!

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I hope your not just messing with me, because that would completely make my day if true.

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A finger fart? Did you come up with that yourself? I like that. Maybe some screenwriter will use see it and use it in their film. Anyway, if you were an extra, where did you appear? Just curious.

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As for the finger fart, yes I just made that up. I really do spell very well, but I was writing that at like 4am. I work overnights and was writing it then. Sometimes I think the imdb system does some of that because I only sent that answer once and it is there twice, the first with a mispelling and the second correct. I had been staring at accounting worksheets for like 6 straight hours and stopped to answer the OP's question. And Paul Ke....lighten up, ok?

And finally, I was only in the beginning of the movie when Richard Mulligans character asked Nolte's character where his room was. When the bell rings and Nolte's character rounds the corner, I walk right in front of him. Tall guy, curly hair burgandy and grey nike sweat jacket and bright rust colored courderoy pants. And yes, I cringe looking back at that now. I filmed alot of scenes over the month I was on the set. That was the only one that made the final film. I do miss one scene where I was being arrested as a gang member, too bad it did not make it. Any other questions, let me know.
Thanks.

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Well, I have heard of brain fart, but not finger fart. It was just interesting that is all. Will check on that scene later. It is on Encore tonight but probably won't get home in time to see it. Will check my tape later. Also, just to let you know, Richard Mulligan worked in the same community theater group I am currently in. When he died in 2000, we mentioned it in the newsletter.

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I love how GMCKINST-1 claims to have been an extra in the movie, which is about a school creating a generation of illiterates, and he can't spell well himself. Ah, the irony.

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I really do spell very well, but I was writing that at like 4am. I work overnights and was writing it then. Sometimes I think the imdb system does some of that because I only sent that answer once and it is there twice, the first with a mispelling and the second correct. I had been staring at accounting worksheets for like 6 straight hours and stopped to answer the OP's question. So, Paul Ke....lighten up, ok? No need to be so judgemental. Thanks

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It was amazing that the late Arthur Hiller didn't go nuts about Nolte being drunk on the set. Maybe they were drinking buddies or something. Oh, going back to that film I was an extra on, it turns out that Jobeth Williams is in it as well. She wasn't there the day I was there for the shooting.

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I'm surprised no one said anything to him. Guess they felt he was doing his work so why complain? It is amazing he was able to even do takes!

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It's funny you should mention this, because I always got the impression that Nolte was drinking heavily through the making of this movie. He looks very "tired" throughout. Not that I didn't enjoy his performance, because a tired Nolte is still more interesting to watch than 2/3 of the actors working in the business today.

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Either way, it fit the character he played to a T. Either it was written for him in mind or he drank his way into it, but like was said, even drunk this guy is better than most actors. My question, to the extra, or anyone else, sorry not a new topic, not worth it, but I wonder if that extra sitting @ Ralph Macchio's desk @ the end the one he had get up and move, if that was scripted or if the extra just didn't know it was his seat/mark? and left in as an improv.


"He came home." - Dr. Sam Loomis from the original HalloweeN

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I think what happened there was all the students in his classes were coming in to support Alex so he'd stay. They probably all made an agreement that his first class should sit in the seats and the others in the back. Well, the kid who sat in Eddie's chair figured, "Hey, that seat isn't occupied. Guess the kid who sits there in the first class isn't here. Might as well sit." He sits and at the last minute Eddie enters and goes to the seat to tell the kid nicely, "No, I'm here. Let me sit." The kid didn't mean to do anything, I think. It is also supposed to be a touching moment, when Eddie does come in, since the last time we saw him, he was upset over Danny being killed and wants to just quit school.

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I checked that scene again, and the kid just sits in the seat when he comes in. Maybe they were all outside and they all agreed first period would sit down but that kid asked if the kid who was in first period was there and was told no so he decided to sit. It might've also been a set-up anyway for the cliche where Eddie shows up at the last minute.

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Nolte had a lot of drinking problems in the 80's. He was supposed to host SNL in 1982 but had to drop out so Eddie Murphy, who was a cast member, subbed for him.

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I think this was among Nick's Best acting jobs, at least in my opinion

“Do not fear death... only the unlived life.” - Natalie Babbitt

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I was an extra in this film, also (tons of kids from the Columbus, Ohio area were). I can be seen in some versions, only one scene, in the hallway crowd, near a locker. Dig the big hair (naturally curly, thank you), black sweater and pinstriped, pleated jeans; gotta look quick or I'm gone.

Nick Nolte appeared to be drunk almost every day. I was not near him much nor did I ever speak with him directly; however, it was obvious to all of us that he had a drinking or drug problem when they had to light him or restart a scene. He about fell apart in between takes, while waiting.

Especially funny to most of us, in light of the auditorium scene--- which was filmed but never shown in the completed movie----where a DARE-type police officer is showing us marijuana and drug paraphenalia, as if to "educate" us teenagers on what a drug is and how to avoid them. Ralph Macchio's character disrupts his speech, while we screamed and stamped our feet. I thought it was a good scene (ironic, in light of the movie plot re:what was REALLY going on with Laura Dern and her "lover", that they'd be rabidly concerned about some pot, and ironic in the sense that the biggest star was out of his mind in almost every take onscreen).

Laura Dern was sweet. I "met" her in the bathroom once and she was very polite. We shared a paper towel.

A friend was one of the kids in the classroom with the crazy guy (Richard Mulligan) as teacher; he said that guy was a riot, making them laugh when they had to do retakes. He said the guy's face was like plastic--it just BECAME whatever character or look he wanted, the second he wanted it to. Makes sense, they guy was a comic genius on TV in Empty Nest.

I used to have a crush on Ralph, which was the only reason I signed up to do the movie. He was very pleasant the one time I had to stand near him in a scene (not on camera that I know of). He said hello, asked if I liked the work, etc. NOT necessary on his part, believe me, I was a nobody to him. This despite rumors about his difficult personality on-set that were rampant at that time. No one from a craft service worker to a janitor ever was turned away when they wanted a picture or an autograph, not that I ever heard about.

We were told not to catcall/yell at the stars as they went from place to place (no one listened, I can tell you) and not to "disturb" them or talk to them unless approached by them, but if they weren't shooting and had to stand by, Dern, Williams and Macchio were always nice. Nolte retreated/disappeared as soon as they said he was done, I don't know where he went off to. I do know one time Ralph had to use the restroom and we were milling around in the hallway after a box lunch---yuck---no craft service for US---they actually closed the hall and bathroom off so he could "go" alone. Maybe that kind of thing was what started the rumors about him, I don't know.

They also filmed Mischief in Columbus, Ohio, the nexy year (1985) but I think this movie is better/more realistic than that. Of course that one is period (1956) and Teachers was supposed to be current in 1984, so maybe an apples to oranges comparison isn't valid? When I asked, most of the people I know from that time that also were extras in that movie (me included) rate that second to Teachers.

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I wonder if that auditorium scene with the cop is that same cop who comes into the office, sees the Wounded Kid and asks Grace, "Do you know that kid's bleeding? You should report that." She goes, "Well?" and he goes in a Robert Goulet type attitude, "Well, not to me! I'm here to give a lecture." Then she responded sarcastically, "Ooh, how thrilling. Auditorium, across the hall." What I mean is, was that the set-up for this deleted scene? Here is something else. I just worked as an extra myself on a film that was shot in a high school. It was about a premiere at a film festival and it stars Dennis Hopper, Chris Kattan, and Leelee Sobieski. I didn't exactly talk to them although they saw me. I think as you said, you aren't supposed to disturb the actors if you're an extra. If they want to talk to you, let them start it. It makes sense.

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Judd Hirsch, who was in the movie, did an interview recently where he talked a bit about working with Nolte:

"I always get stuck in these parts where there’s a problem. There’s always a problem in the making of the movie, whether it’s somebody in it or something else, and Nick Nolte was—I love this guy. I just thought he was so great. He’s telling me—[Adopts a fantastic Nick Nolte impression.] “I’m not really an actor, y’know. I failed at football, and I failed at this, too!” I’m thinking, “You’re talking to me as a failure!” He had a problem. And so the producer comes over to me and says, “What the hell can you do for us?” I said, “For whom?” He said, “What can you do about Nick?” I said, “Uh, I don’t know.” He was trying to get me to get Nick to do something, so that, when he couldn’t remember something, I could sort of help him out. So I said, “Just shoot up from this point. Then you won’t see him shaking. You won’t see his hands, you won’t see his feet, you won’t see anything else.” And, of course, he was wonderful after that. He was who he was. He was just a faulty guy."

Here's the link: http://www.avclub.com/article/judd-hirsch-forever-taxi-falling-out-win dow-and-pl-209282

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Just read the article. Very interesting.

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He probably was, or at least privately, knowing how he was at the time-partying at a rapid pace. But he wasn't too bad in the film.

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I heard he was doing blow and partying, Im from and live in Columbus Ohio. I finally got a copy after many years of holding out, I remember seeing this when I was younger.

I went to fort hayes high school here in Columbus which is not far from Central at all and I remember them having a Teachers apple bomb poster signed and framed in the office, not sure why but I think they may have used some of the teachers there for extras and what not, thats what I heard.

Not a lot of films have been shot here in Columbus so this is pretty much all we have, other then Speak and Mischief.

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The 1984 film "Firstborn" was filmed in my hometown of Wayne, NJ. It isn't just the actors who party a lot. The crew party, too.

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