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Betty's Change: Who Actually Bought It?


Because I sure as hell didn't buy it. Betty only chose Lewis over Stan in the end because he was better in the sack then Stan was. If you ask me I think Betty would of ended up cheating on Lewis like she was going to in the original script of ROTN 2.

Julia Montgomery's a moron if she thinks a character like that would ever change.

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It was improbable but certainly within the realm of possible. Having gone through high school and college I have seen women change attitudes although I have never seen the ROTN method employed. Maybe the light went on in Betty's head that Lewis was heading into a lucrative career and Stan was destined to be a department store manager at best. Not motivated by love but shaken out of her comfy cocoon by circumstances. Getting back to my life experiences I used to know a woman that a lot of guys wanted to bed but I never got my hopes up so I kept the conversation away from sex and relationships. We lost contact after a year and I thought it was a deliberate move on her part but when I think about it know maybe she was looking to become more than friends and felt rejection. Hot women have feelings but it is a crap shoot whether she will intersect with a given guy in terms of emotion at a random point in time.

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Why should anyone really buy anything in this movie? I mean, this whole movie is saddled with incredulities and nonsense.

1. It's a college, but nobody ever studies or goes to class.

2. Students could be forcibly removed from their dorms and forced to live in the gymnasium, and the school sanctions it.

3. Heavy alcohol consumption is permitted at school-related activities.

4. Selling pies with the pictures of naked co-eds--without their consent--is allowed.

5. Jocks picking on nerds. That sounds more like high school, not college. In college, nobody gives a s*** if you're a nerd.

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Well it's a comedy not a documentary plus who wants to see people study in a 90 minute movie? Yeah you are right in college no one cares if you are a nerd or whatever, in college the environment is way too big for anyone to care about that kind of thing and it's also easier to distant yourself from people you don't want to be around.

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I'm not sure how old you are, but you may be looking at it from a newer perspective. Back in 84 when this movie came out, even then there was still a big distinction amongst jocks and nerds in college. Back then, a lot of colleges were more about partying than getting an education. Education came secondary.

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I am assuming you were addressing your question to me. I am 35, so I was not in college in 1984, but my experience has been that the whole jock versus nerd rivalry was far more prevalent in high school than college, which was actually nonexistent when I was there. And as far as education goes, I can accept that a lot of schools, particularly in 1984, were more about partying. But this movie contains NO studying or scenes of going to class or references to midterms coming up or papers needing to be typed, etc...

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It doesn't need to reference them. The movie wasn't about their academics, it was about jocks vs. nerds. The college was merely the setting.

And maybe where you were, it wasn't very prevalent, but in other places it sure was.

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Yes, but the setting would have come across as being more realistic if academics was at least mentioned a little bit.

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Well, I disagree. I think the setting was done perfectly. Adding any academics would have just been filler.


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Well, okay then. LOL!

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I agree.

And it also really bothers me that they never show anyone going to the bathroom either. I mean come on, they are on campus for how long until homecoming? A couple months? And no one ever had to urinate? Totally takes away from the realism of the film!

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Actually there are a couple of scenes, albeit very briefly that address the academics...Poindexter can be seen typing a paper and Gilbert met a girl during a computer class...Like another poster said, college was the backdrop...



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6. Students can call the Dean of the University an ass hole at university functions.

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Oh, shut up, it's an eighties comedy! Are you born in the nineties, or what?

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Uh no I'm not actually. In fact I was born in the early 80's. 82 it be exactly and when I saw this movie for the first time when I was 12 I loved it and then again as a teenage but now as an adult I feel like this movie sent a really bad message out there about given my own life experiences since watching it.

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it was an 80's comedy... if you watched it for some deep meaning or understanding into the inner workings of a college student... you won't get it.

ALL 80's movies based in Colleges, were about partying, having sex, taking illegal drugs, and one group over coming the much more popular group.. heck about 99% of movies in the 80's were about the subjects listed above.

you want something that gives a good message, watch some of those indie bore fest from the last few years.. If you want to chuckle at stupid Politically incorrect funny movies you pop in an 80's movie and ignore all the reality.

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"ONLY" because he was better in the sack? Lol. That can count for an awful lot, let me tell you.

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And Lewis never called her a goat...


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Even more important, and as the person who said it apparently failed to see, it wasn't the fact that he was better "in the sack". He was better at giving her oral. And THAT counts for a_lot.

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I cried BS...

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I would’ve bought it had it happened gradually, which I suppose wasn’t feasible for a film like this.

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Betty's transformation was hard to believe for me, but i guess you can't underestimate the power of a female orgasm





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They could have made it more believable if she wasn't just a one dimensional bitch. There was never once a "maybe this is going to far" moment with her. Even after she spoiled the party and potentially ruined their tri-lamb membership all she can comment on how "fun" it was. She was cruel shallow and mean. It's unrealistic that she falls for Lewis after being horrified enough to refuse to kiss him at he stall (potentially jepodising the fundraiser), but what's even more unrealistic at the end is Lewis calls for the nerds to come out and she's the VERY FIRST to come out as if "I'm a GOOD person now!" Earlier this day she had referred to them as nerds and was unremittingly cruel and mean to them the whole movie with absolutely no scenes where she shows even the slightest bit of remorse or pity for them and now because of one time having sex with him she dumps her boyfriend and is now going to be a good and wholesome character? No I don't buy it. She had no redeeming features whatsoever beforehand. She never once showed any ounce of sympathy to the nerds plight whatsoever. She was just as mean and cruel as the jocks. In fact I could see many of the other nerds resenting her intrusion because of what she did to them.
It says a lot of her that she was willing to end a long-term relationship with a guy simply because someone else is better in bed. I mean are we really to believe they stayed together when her only reason for choosing him is sex? Are we not to believe she'd dump him in a heartbeat if she suspected someone else was better in bed?
Lets not forget the whole campus has now seen Lewis' (now) gf naked and most have naked pictures of her. How is Lewis going to feel about this? Will he have to tell the others to uninstall the cameras?
I also felt they really punished the Mus more. I mean the jocks got a painful one off experience and they'd released the pigs ruined their salvaged party. All the Mus did was stand them up and they got panty raided and were constantly viewed naked. It seems they were more interested in satisfying their own needs than really getting revenge.

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