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Weren't even alive when it was new...they have no memory of the cold war...the actual real possibility of nuclear war...


Yet they think they understand.


Welcome to the internet, everyone knows everything, and no one likes anything

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Apparently the filmmakers didn't have much of an understanding of the possibility of nuclear war either!
Hence why they try to totally ignore it.
Hence why the film is such an implausible load of crap.

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Pulp Fiction is implausible too, but that won and Academy award. Nearly every single movie in existence is implausible. We don't watch movies for realism, that would be very boring. We watch them to be entertained. I suppose you have never watched Star Trek and Star Wars (very implausible, both films disregard the laws of physics).

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Star Trek is set in the distant future. Star Wars is set in a far off galaxy. It's not really the same thing.

I disagree that "nearly every single movie ever made is implausible",.
Some are based on real events - Schindler's List, Gandhi, Out of Africa, The Long Walk To Freedom (and many many others).
Many others are plausible - The Godfather, Citizen Kane, Casablanca, Four Weddings etc (many others).
Others are plausible within their own reality - Lord of the Rings, Blade Runner, Alien, Star Wars (many more)
Others are just silly and implausible - Red Dawn, Commando, Rambo III etc

How is Pulp Fiction especially implausible?
It won an Oscar because the screenplay was good.
Red Dawn didn't win any Oscars. Why? Because it was rubbish.

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They didn't "totally ignore it." They discussed it specifically in the movie.

Did you actually WATCH it, or do you say what you say based on the poster?

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A few things you missed.
The destabilization was very much a result of the wheat crop failure in Russia.
Part of the point of taking america is to gain access to it's riches, and to a starving russia, that would be the crops. nuking the US would severely damage the crops, so this is a deterrent. meanwhile, the US was not wanting to nuke itself.

this movie was based on very real threats at the time.
Your username suggests you were born in 79... so what, 10 when the wall fell... 12 when the USSR fell... Apparently your parents did a good job shielding you from those threats, and how they worked, so good on them.

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I was born in 1976.
I am old enough to know that there was never any real threat of a Soviet land invasion of the US FFS.

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The threat of the type of invasion in red dawn is implausible. The threat of an invasion into Alaska was way more plausible, although not probable. But the threat of war was very real, and the fear of possible invasion was also real. Now you may think those who thought that were just ignorant, but I assure you people believed the threat was real. Perhaps you call it paranoia, and perhaps there was very little chance of it happening, but there was a chance, however low, and there was concern over it. More than anyone who wasn't alive then realizes.

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I wasn't alive then. I saw the movie the first time only a few years ago. I don't think I understand what it was like back then, but I thought the movie was very good, even though it's premise can be hard to believe.

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Bzzzzzt! Thanks for playing.

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Ahem! They certainly ignored reality. The discussion in the film was insane.

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Your own discussion of the film itself is "insane," what with your desire that the Eastern Bloc should have won the Cold War.

But they specifically addressed the issue of nuclear war in the movie and explained why it didn't happen, which is a far cry from your assertion that they completely ignored it.

Which leads me to conclude that you paid little actual attention to the movie because you wanted to dismiss it.

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As most people have recognised, my comment about the USSR winning the Cold War was meant ironically.
And the premise of this film is still as bonkers now as it was in 1984.

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Oh, of COURSE it was "meant ironically."

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Americans are, of course, famously "good at understanding irony".

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Americans are, of course, famously "good at understanding irony".

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I do understand irony, and even if you didn't actually mean what you said about the Eastern Bloc winning the Cold War -- even if it was a sarcastic jape -- um, that's not "irony," and no one who actually knows what "irony" means would say it is.

But puff your chest out and pretend that you're somehow smarter some more.

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