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Bill's eulogy for John (Larry's eulogy for Piedmont)


The eulogy that Larry delivers for Piedmont is apparently the same as the one Bill gave to his friend John Belushi. But I don't understand why Bill would say that John was "a slob and that he will not be missed". That he loved disgusting and offending people. I don't get why he would say that.

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Me neither one thing I didn't understand from the film.

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If you'll recall, Piedmont said something similar about the Harvard drivers when they were blown up. In those circumstances, that was just their way of dealing with the constant threat of death. Rather than being overly sentimental, they pointed out things that weren't flattering.

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It was a defense mechanism they used to get over the death and despair. They are saying the opposite of what they really feel. When they say, "He will not be missed," what they are really saying is that they will indeed be missed.

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You guys are probably right, but for a split second I thought that Larry may have had a tinge of disrespect for that aspect of the man, and kinda meant some of the things he said..

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Larry saw Piedmont distance himself from the Harvard drivers by pushing them away, calling them liars. When Piedmont dies, and Larry doesn't know what to say, he remembers that hatred, so he tells a truth. There's a lot going on in both speeches and both characters are referring to themselves and recognizing their own deaths in the "...and they will not be missed."

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https://www.dannydutch.com/post/the-lovingly-mean-eulogy-bill-murray-wrote-for-john-belushi

Murray then explained why he eulogized Belushi in such a fashion, "It comes from this old Persian thing where if somebody dies you tell horrible stories about him. That’s what I did when John died… What it does is remind you not to get sentimental. You say, ‘That guy was a rat,’ and I’m a rat too, and I’d better do something about it rather than weep my life away.”

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